British Boxing is the most corrupt scene in all of sport

[Tay Roc]

Texas is much worse.

[RubenSonny]

its not incompetence. the same guy that stopped manfredo-calzaghe let khan-prescott and enzo continue when they were completely and utterly gone. if it was incompetence they would be fired but the same guys keep getting the call because they are trustworthy. same reason the same terrible judges keep getting the call.

This is a good point, if it is obviously incompetence, why isn't anything done about it? Why do these guys keep getting top fights?

[D-MiZe]

This is a good point, if it is obviously incompetence, why isn't anything done about it? Why do these guys keep getting top fights?

Because they aren't found to be doing anything wrong.

As long as the referee can give a good reason as to why he stops a fight, he can do the most ludicrous of things. Now if you piss about with the 10-count or turn your back when getting hit, you're just giving the referee a reason to end it.

If a fighter is outclassed, it'll get stopped. If he's getting hit too much, it'll get stopped. If he doesn't look like he wants to continue, it'll get stopped. If they can find a reason for doing so, they will stop it.

[IronDanHamza]

Mcphilbin, I had forgotten about that one

I haven't seen the McKenzie stoppage, so I won't comment on that.

If they're quick on Enzo these days, it's because their is no perceived value left in him anymore.

McCloskey-Corley was a bad stoppage but it's the exception to the rule.

I'm actually a Brit but I generally avoid the British Boxing scene, it is so rotten to me. C'mon Dan, surely you can see what is going on here? Every single biggish fight ends in nonsense. Do you think for a second Andre Ward should risk coming here? I understand the house fighter gets the advantages but it's getting to the point now where it would actually be ****** and reckless for someone like Ward to come and fight Froch here.

The McKenzie stoppage was ridiculously early. Way worse than the Froch-Groves one.

I think that one was more to do with the fact Enzo is seen as someone who's not durable at all (Rightfully) a little bit similar to Groves.

Both I personally feel were incompetence.

I definitely agree corruption exists over here but I also think incompetence exists in abundance. Hard to say for sure really.

[jas]

I think a lot of the time it's more incompetence than corruption.

Just look at Ian John Lewis' performance reffing the McCloskey-Corley fight for example. Just ridiculously bad stoppage against the British fighter although he was losing.

We just generally have a poor level of ref's and often Judges. Ian John Lewis again being one of the worst.

yea, he is a bad referee in my opinion also. and i agree that a lot of it is imcompetence. i think generally british people DNSAB(roger voice)

ian john lewis is so inconsistent. he let briggs get beat down by vitali for 12 rounds which is the stuff that leads to a mago situation. he also missed some knockdowns in the pascal -bhop rematch.

i watched the chisora-pala fight and the ref should jump in as soon as the guy turned his back either to stop or restart the fight. and the commentators are ****** imo for suggesting it was a premature stoppage because the dude didn't even have his hands up to protect himself ******s.

howard foster didnt get a foothold in the froch groves fight. he expects them to hear verbal commands to break when the crowd is loud and they are tryin to knock his each others heads off? and then when they didnt hear , in the 1st round, he tells them to hear for a break command. thats why there was so much punching "on the break".

this is basic stuff and they cant even do it. hearn made a bad decision bringing in a domestic ref who could be influenced by each fighters rep.

just overall rookie mistakes constantly made by people in british boxing.

floyd has a great defence, so does ward, bhop also and he is still boxing at 48. name me a british fighter over the years whos had a great defence.

[RubenSonny]

Because they aren't found to be doing anything wrong.

As long as the referee can give a good reason as to why he stops a fight, he can do the most ludicrous of things. Now if you piss about with the 10-count or turn your back when getting hit, you're just giving the referee a reason to end it.

If a fighter is outclassed, it'll get stopped. If he's getting hit too much, it'll get stopped. If he doesn't look like he wants to continue, it'll get stopped. If they can find a reason for doing so, they will stop it.

This is just a vague answer.

What would be a 'good reason' to allow a ref to do the 'most ludicrous of things'?

It's obvious and apparent to everyone else yourself included, the UK has a reputation for it, so why would they continue it when the incompetence is there?

[IronDanHamza]

yea, he is a bad referee in my opinion also. and i agree that a lot of it is imcompetence. i think generally british people DNSAB(roger voice)

ian john lewis is so inconsistent. he let briggs get beat down by vitali for 12 rounds which is the stuff that leads to a mago situation. he also missed some knockdowns in the pascal -bhop rematch.

i watched the chisora-pala fight and the ref should jump in as soon as the guy turned his back either to stop or restart the fight. and the commentators are ****** imo for suggesting it was a premature stoppage because the dude didn't even have his hands up to protect himself ******s.

howard foster didnt get a foothold in the froch groves fight. he expects them to hear verbal commands to break when the crowd is loud and they are tryin to knock his each others heads off? and then when they didnt hear , in the 1st round, he tells them to hear for a break command. thats why there was so much punching "on the break".

this is basic stuff and they cant even do it. hearn made a bad decision bringing in a domestic ref who could be influenced by each fighters rep.

just overall rookie mistakes constantly made by people in british boxing.

floyd has a great defence, so does ward, bhop also and he is still boxing at 48. name me a british fighter over the years whos had a great defence.

I think Ian John Lewis is probably the worst referee I've ever seen in my life.

There's no way he's corrupt. He's just a straight up moron.

He's a terrible judge aswell.

[D-MiZe]

This is just a vague answer.

What would be a 'good reason' to allow a ref to do the 'most ludicrous of things'?

It's obvious and apparent to everyone else yourself included, the UK has a reputation for it, so why would they continue it when the incompetence is there?

Because it's safe.

Any reasoning concerning the fighter's safety is allowable. It's vague because so much shit has happened, laughably so but falls under that.

Honestly, it's only been recent that the rest of the boxing community has taken notice of these British stoppages. I haven't seen it being discussed like it has now before and hopefully it's a catalyst for change. But ultimately, BBofC are more concerned about the fighter's safety and if stopping contests prematurely is one way of guaranteeing it - they'll continue to do it.