Robert Garcia should have told Roach that he needs more time... not just ignore him..

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  • Zen_Fighter
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    #151
    Clearly I don't "know" the facts. My understanding is that Roach and Pac had the gym at a certain time. Garcia and Rios where now on the other camps clock. Garcia thought they should have more time because they had an interview. Garcia did not dispute they were past time. He believed they were allowed more time because of an interview. That is not good enough. If I am coaching/training someone and my time on the clock starts the other camp needs to go. Period. That being said I don't especially care how the camps acted.

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    • Evol
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      #152
      Originally posted by Public_Enemy
      No, the point is you may not get an explanation right away (or a valid explanation) but there is a proper way to carry yourself in the situation. If you're not satisfied with the explanation, you would go through the proper channels to make sure the incident doesn't happen again. Picking a fight is not the correct response.
      yes and roach clearly said ur time was up before snapping after gracia refused to leave. roach just didnt go straight over there and started raging like u make it out to be. roach walked up said ur time is up u need to leave. should roach said please? and like i said if gracia would have told roach that they got the ok to stay later then there wouldnt be no fight correct? so it seems like they both were asking for it.

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #153
        Originally posted by Light_Speed
        Well Arum has been interviewed by journalists about the scuffle, some new information will probably come out. Until then, we don't need to pull stuff out of our asses.
        Well it's according to what Robert Garcia said and I don't see any reason for him to lie about it since he was the only one who conducted himself with any class during the altercation.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Light_Speed
          Well Arum has been interviewed by journalists about the scuffle, some new information will probably come out. Until then, we don't need to pull stuff out of our asses.
          It's not being pulled out of asses.

          Garcia has clearly stated all of this.

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            #155
            Originally posted by brick wall
            nah no one here knows about the specifics of what was authorized or not...according tos are just assumptions.
            How is it an assumption?

            Garica is saying it.

            That's not an assumption.

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              #156
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Well it's according to what Robert Garcia said and I don't see any reason for him to lie about it since he was the only one who conducted himself with any class during the altercation.
              I don't know why this is difficult for people

              If you think Garcia is lieing about being granted the extra time then fair enough.

              Seems highly doubtful to me considering we know they had to do an interview that went into their time and what reason do they have to lie?

              I don't understand how that's "Being pulled out of asses" and "assumptions" when it's quite obviously neither of those things.

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              • marvelousmatt
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                #157
                Originally posted by Evol
                stop it he wasnt trying to explain shiiet. he was standing his ground by saying WE need an extra 30min and were NOT going nowhere. how is that "trying" to explain himself?
                Come on man !!

                Its great publicity and hype for the fight fellas. Both acted like 5 year olds. Rios is an excellent fighter who does dumb immature ****e. Ariza is a P.O.S. & Roach thinks that he owns the world.

                Top Rank could have easily stopped this (security officials & P.R. staff are abound in video) ...if they wanted to.

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                • Ray*
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                  #158
                  I don't care what anyone says but it looked like Roach was looking for a fight. We can all defend him all we want and blame Garcia for staying longer than he was suppose to but Roach WAS looking for a confrontation, now everything that happened after that was ****** and childish from both Rios camp (Especially Ariza Kicking Roach) and Roach with his little digs.. They both need to grow up and act their age.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Evol
                    yes and roach clearly said ur time was up before snapping after gracia refused to leave. roach just didnt go straight over there and started raging like u make it out to be. roach walked up said ur time is up u need to leave. should roach said please? and like i said if gracia would have told roach that they got the ok to stay later then there wouldnt be no fight correct? so it seems like they both were asking for it.
                    It was 2 men with a difference of opinion. It can be resolved like professionals. Did Garcia say "We're not leaving you piece of ****". No he remained professional. Roach acted like a prick because that's what he is.

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                    • Evol
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Public_Enemy
                      Who gave each team their time allotment? That is who Roach needs to talk to. I'm not saying action shouldn't have been taken. I'm saying he literally could not do it himself and he should not have tried.
                      top rank and accroding to them roach's time was at 11 which he showed up on. ur point??? so if top rank told gracis his team can stay an extra 30min and here comes roach telling gracia his time his up ur telling me gracia cant let roach know about the extended time?? really now??

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