Comments Thread For: Video: Roach Explains His Side on Ariza/Garcia Incident

[Joe Grizzley]

No he tried to get in Freddy face when he called him a Mexican mutha****er and the dude is that Mexican. He couldve just said mutha****er but he brought the race part.

Watch the video angle thats behind Roach. Ariza started making fun of Roachs disease and when Freddy approached Ariza kicked him first and the mexican guy hopped off the ring, got in Roachs face and THEN AND ONLY THEN Roach said Mexican MF'er which is not racist. Garcia's team said Freddy said things he didn't say and thats a fact.

[IronDanHamza]

Are you deaf as well as blind? Roach didn't come over and say get out. Its people like you that create hysteria and make this world a miserable place to live in.

Roach came over and Garcia spoke first and said WE GOT ANOTHER 20 MINUTES.

Roach then said NO YOU DONT, WE HAVE THE GYM AT 11 o'clock.

Garcia said his piece about the ESPN interviews and then said WE AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

Roach then said: IT AIN'T MY FAULT.

Garcia then said: ITS NOT MY FAULT EITHER.

Roach then said: GET THE FUCGK OUT OF HERE.

So you see, Garcia said spoke first and said a lot. He was also rude to Freddy with being dismissive in his tone and demanding with the WE AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE bit. Thats why Freddy called him a piece of shiet and rightly so.

Its not we're trying to translate some ancient language and there is plenty of room for interpretation, we have video in english. What more do you need?

Obviously I was paraphrasing.

How is saying "You piece of ****" rightly so?

If Roach came over in a respectful manner and not saying "Get the **** out of here" and "you piece of ****" then nothing would have escalated.

Roach is the one that started cursing and calling names.

[goldenears]

sorry for repeat post - my take on this

lets be real about this

1 - Top Rank shouldn't have set up a situation where gym time overlapped particularly when it's well known Roach is obsessive about preparations and prone to blow ups when he feels his control of a situation isn't there

2 - Roach should never have stepped to Garcia mid-interview in front of cameras and tried to aggressively get him out of there, clearly the Margarito/Rios stuff still hangs over him

3 - Garcia mostly acted with dignity, but being boxing, he had to stand his ground whilst showing respect

4 - Roach lost his **** far too quickly and shouldn't have called Garcia a piece of **** without serious provocation

5 - Ariza had no business getting involved in the discussion. But, hey, cameras were there and he's desperately trying to stay 'in' with Garcias - and as soon as he joined in it escalated. If he stays in his box, Roach/Garcia work it out without much more nonsense

6 - Once Ariza starts his childish mocking of Roach's boxing-related disability, esp with their history/his short fuse/his fighting background of course Roach is going to react and that's what happened

7 - the kick was a BIT*H move and escalated **** further - arguably caused everything that followed

8 - At that point Roach adrenaline through the roof, Ariza has kicked him and is mocking him, so anyone that comes at him he just wants to get to - so he said things that there's no excuse for

9 - Ariza continued from behind the safety of numbers/security and distance to use just as offensive language and mock the gay/disabled (anyone with a relative with any sort of mental disability would be offended by Ariza) - He showed what an absolute **** he is.

10 - Only issues I have with Garcia are that he shouldn't have laughed even a little at Ariza's 'stuttering' , and that he should have told Ariza to shut the f(*& up in the first place and not make a scene.

11 - Roach isn't a racist, he's a nasty, spiteful screwed up guy who is a born fighter - but he used offensive language in a bad situation and will live to regret it. A racist doesn't keep clients of so many different races.

12 - Seckbach is milking this way too far and his accusations of racism and KKK etc are on dodgy ground. Also if you're going to spend hours tweeting about the offensiveness of a racially motivated remark, you can't possibly ignore ****phobic and disablist (?) remarks made in the same exchange.

13 - Roach started this, no doubt, but it wouldn't have gone so bad if Ariza hadn't have opened his mouth where it wasn't needed. So bottom line, there's no innocent parties in all of this, although to be fair, Rios stayed relatively pro throughout (apart from the funny as fuc* "kill em")

14 - Ariza is an attention seeking fool who can't resist the cameras. In the cold light of day I hope RG who I have a lot of respect for realises he doesn't need this clown in his camp

[Joe Grizzley]

Obviously I was paraphrasing.

How is saying "You piece of ****" rightly so?

If Roach came over in a respectful manner and not saying "Get the **** out of here" and "you piece of ****" then nothing would have escalated.

Roach is the one that started cursing and calling names.

Lets learn something today.

Paraphrasing: A restatement of a text or passage in another form or other words.

Where does it say in that definition that you can alter the timeline of events to suite your need? Your lying.

Not it wasn't obvious because changing the timeline isn't part of paraphrasing. You said Roach said that stuff first which isn't paraphrasing its a FLAT OUT LIE. I wouldn't expect a person of your make-up to admit when your wrong, people like you will keep altering reality until it fits. Very predictable.

Roach was respectful at first. Garcia was dismissive and rude first. Can you read or did you not learn? I don't know, maybe you were born in the bush and was raised by dingo's.

[IronDanHamza]

Lets learn something today.

Paraphrasing: A restatement of a text or passage in another form or other words.

Where does it say in that definition that you can alter the timeline of events to suite your need? Your lying.

Not it wasn't obvious because changing the timeline isn't part of paraphrasing. You said Roach said that stuff first which isn't paraphrasing its a FLAT OUT LIE. I wouldn't expect a person of your make-up to admit when your wrong, people like you will keep altering reality until it fits. Very predictable.

Roach was respectful at first. Garcia was dismissive and rude first. Can you read or did you not learn? I don't know, maybe you were born in the bush and was raised by dingo's.

Nothing worse than the "Mr. Smart Guy" act, trying to belittle me whilst having mistakes like these in your post.

Because when he came over the first thing he said was "You need to leave" or something a long those lines which is effectively the same as "Get out". Again, paraphrasing.

Roach wasn't respectful. He came over in an aggressive manner and wasn't willing to listen to anything.

He then was the first person to start cursing and start calling people names which then escalated from there.

Roach clearly being a moron and starting all of this when it could easily have been resolved if he was willing to listen that Garcia and his team had been allowed an extra half hour by Top Rank, but he wasn't.

[radiotracer]

No, not really.

Roach came over and said "Get out" then when Garcia tried to explain that Top Rank have allowed them an extra 30 minutes he said "I don't care" then Garcia said "Well I don't care" then Roach said "You piece of ****"

Everything else then followed.

Roach's ridiculous behaviour, aggressive behaviour is what started it.

when did top rank allow another 30 minutes. garcia told him they had to do interview and hes not going anywhere. pac will get twice as much interview but wouldn't disrespect the other team. watch video and listen again to what garcia tells roach.

[radiotracer]

Garcia's team only stepped in and said anything after Roach was acting like a moron and calling him a piece of ****.

If Roach didn't start it with his bull**** I doubt anything would have happened.

if team garcia would have left on time there wouldn't be any issues

[IronDanHamza]

when did top rank allow another 30 minutes. garcia told him they had to do interview and hes not going anywhere. pac will get twice as much interview but wouldn't disrespect the other team. watch video and listen again to what garcia tells roach.

if team garcia would have left on time there wouldn't be any issues

No, when Garcia and Rios and co arrived in the morning Top Rank representatives told them they had to do an Interview for ESPN right away that would take around 20-30 minutes therefore would be allowed an extra 30 minutes after 11 o'clock.

That could easily have been explained but Roach didn't want to hear it.

Infact, he said something along the lines of "I don't care. That's not my fault." Right before he said "Get the **** out of here" followed shortly by "You piece of ****"

Yes, very respectful.

[sinontec]

Roach has a girlfriend? Did he meet the ladyboi in pnoy land or in china?

[mrpain81]