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  • Originally posted by timurgepard View Post
    You call WBA, WBC, WBO belt champions journeymen? They all wait any mistake from ggg. Going up now it is mistake. GGG can collect all this belts and defend them regularly as he is fihgting 4-5 times a year.

    Why Ward doesnt go up and face LHW? He was fighting at LHW when was younger.
    IMO, Ward already cleaned up 168..... so if he can move up he should... if he can still make 168, he can try and grab a couple of rematches for money....nothing left to prove there IMO

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    • Another one in the long list of fighters ducking GGG. As a contender he couldn't get a titleshot and now as a champion, not even mandatories is willing to face him.

      There must be close to ten irrefuteable ducks on Golovkin's ledger now.

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      • Originally posted by hougigo View Post
        IMO, Ward already cleaned up 168..... so if he can move up he should... if he can still make 168, he can try and grab a couple of rematches for money....nothing left to prove there IMO
        Thats what I am saying.

        There a lot of boxers left in MW and a lot of critics who gives Sergio 1st place. I also think he is number one until he faces Gennady and best wins. Why ggg needs to go up then.

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        • Golovkin is unstoppable at middleweight and Martinez is past his best it's time for Golovkin to move up and face Ward, again would Ward face him I don't know. Golovkin hits with the power of a Heavyweight and probably would clean up that division as well.

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          • Murray doesn't want another loss

            Why lose to Golovkin when Murray can fight some other Brit fighter and win. Murray is smart why Lose?

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            • Looks like these ***** ass, ****** ass, ***** ass duckers forcing GGG to move up, which is sad, i want GGG to stay at 160 and fight AT LEAST two top 5 fighter before moving up.

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              • Originally posted by LAPete
                Maybe he was a Troll whatever and FYI there are not many hispanics if any in Eastern Europe especially fighters. Maybe you have never traveled before but i have and i have also lived in Eastern Europe and trained fighters there. I know most of the trainers, gym owners, Boxers and both Muay Thai & K1 Fighters as well. Also it's obvious and clear that both American Fighters and those of Hispanic decent dominate the World Class Boxing ranks and thats why i felt compelled to post a rebuttal to the so called Trolls ignorant remark.
                Last, since you want to be a wise ass and challenge my good intentions of teaching someone something of importance maybe i can educate YOU on correct grammar. Your closing remark was that i did not educate "no one"...correct grammar would be "anyone". So there i educated YOU!
                I really don't even want to get in to this because it's ****** but you clearly are taking shots at a particular group of people and its simply not true. Most Eastern Europeans have only been allowed to compete in the pro ranks since the 90's and obviously have a long history of amateur success, these fighters didn't not go pro because they "couldn't" hang with their American counterparts, they were not allowed/able to go pro.

                Look at a list of titleholders in boxing right now and you will probably see at least 25-30% of all champions from Europe, I bet. For a geographical region that has only been allowed to compete in pro boxing for less then 25 years, there has been a long list of world class prospects, contenders and champions from Eastern Europe and a long list of Eastern Europeans who have beaten American or "Hispanic" (wtf?) and in vice versa, and will continue to happen - neither suggesting that a fighter from either region is superior to a fighter of another simply due to where they're from.


                You responded to a troll who doesn't speak on behalf of anybody other then himself and reponded by disrespecting another group of people by saying they're inferior in the sport of boxing to two other groups and then also ignorantly implied that a Hispanic can't be American or European.......

                Sorry, I would never be ****** enough to say that Eastern European fighters are superior to Americans. Nor would I say Americans are superior to Europeans. Theres good fighters all over the world, and where they come from doesn't matter.... Some troll on here isn't going to cause me to say otherwise..
                Last edited by King_; 11-11-2013, 01:58 PM.

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                • Originally posted by King- View Post
                  I really don't even want to get in to this because it's ****** but you clearly are taking shots at a particular group of people and its simply not true. Most Eastern Europeans have only been allowed to compete in the pro ranks since the 90's and obviously have a long history of amateur success, these fighters didn't not go pro because they "couldn't" hang with their American counterparts, they were not allowed/able to go pro.

                  Look at a list of titleholders in boxing right now and you will probably see at least 25-30% of all champions from Europe, I bet. For a geographical region that has only been allowed to compete in pro boxing for less then 25 years, there has been a long list of world class prospects, contenders and champions from Eastern Europe and a long list of Eastern Europeans who have beaten American or "Hispanic" (wtf?) and in vice versa, and will continue to happen - neither suggesting that a fighter from either region is superior to a fighter of another simply due to where they're from.


                  You responded to a troll who doesn't speak on behalf of anybody other then himself and reponded by disrespecting another group of people by saying they're inferior in the sport of boxing to two other groups and then also ignorantly implied that a Hispanic can't be American or European.......

                  Sorry, I would never be ****** enough to say that Eastern European fighters are superior to Americans. Nor would I say Americans are superior to Europeans. Theres good fighters all over the world, and where they come from doesn't matter.... Some troll on here isn't going to cause me to say otherwise..
                  dude...............soviets have been able to go pro for about 22 years now (& still not one ATG) even hopkins is greater then anything from the nation of eastern europe (& he's been fighting around the same time the nation gained independence)

                  not saying that a fighter from eastern europe can't be talented but it obviously lacks a decent history on a professional end (just talking the last 20 years)

                  in the last 20 years theres sprouted a small group of ATG's from america. I can't think of a single one for eastern europe.


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                  • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
                    dude...............soviets have been able to go pro for about 22 years now (& still not one ATG) even hopkins is greater then anything from the nation of eastern europe (& he's been fighting around the same time the nation gained independence)

                    not saying that a fighter from eastern europe can't be talented but it obviously lacks a decent history on a professional end (just talking the last 20 years)

                    in the last 20 years theres sprouted a small group of ATG's from america. I can't think of a single one for eastern europe.


                    Well depending upon the definition Tszyu and Wlad is (at least close to) ATG. IMO Michalszewski should have been in the HOF.

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                    • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                      Well depending upon the definition Tszyu and Wlad is (at least close to) ATG. IMO Michalszewski should have been in the HOF.
                      Tszyu and Wlad are not atg's............

                      i don't even think wlad is in the top 100...........

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