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  • #41
    Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Post
    First he asked for ******ed tests to duck Pacquiao.

    Then he said he would only fight him if Pacquiao took $40Mill flat and Mayweather took all of the PPV revenue which would make him around $100M

    Then he said he had to actually sign to TMT and give him 5 fights


    Fraud will ALWAYS find an excuse to not fight Pacquiao or block the fight from happening
    So there shouldnt be Drug testing? or just not for Pac. All of the boxers that have since come up HOT on the test and you believe there shouldnt be testing or just no testing for Pac? Please explain.........

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
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      Originally Posted by Hawkeye_616

      Recently Floyd Mayweather said that he will only fight Manny Pacquiao if he signs with TMT Promotions and gives him 5 fights under his banner. There was a recent article, "Stiverne Sues Don King, Claims Violation of Ali Act" by David P. Greisman. Wouldn't Floyd be in violation of the Ali Act also since "it prohibits a promoter (TMT, Ellerbe), from requiring a boxer (Pacquiao) to sign an exclusive promotional agreement as a precondition to obtaining a bout agreement with another boxer (Floyd Mayweather) signed by the same promoter(TMT). Seems like Floyd knows he can't violate the Ali Act....so one has to wonder if Floyd is really scared to fight Pacquiao. Why all the fuss in fighting a "has been"? Read between the lines....Mayweather is a coward.

      http://www.boxingscene.com/stiverne-...ali-act--71452

      Wouldn't manny and bob be in violation of the act for doing this. With tim and jmm? Is manny a coward for doing that?
      Bradley signed with TR and got a Casamayor fight not Pacquiao first.

      He signed with TR in PURSUE of a Pacquiao fight. Big difference.


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      • #43
        Originally posted by Hawkeye_616 View Post
        Recently Floyd Mayweather said that he will only fight Manny Pacquiao if he signs with TMT Promotions and gives him 5 fights under his banner. There was a recent article, "Stiverne Sues Don King, Claims Violation of Ali Act" by David P. Greisman. Wouldn't Floyd be in violation of the Ali Act also since "it prohibits a promoter (TMT, Ellerbe), from requiring a boxer (Pacquiao) to sign an exclusive promotional agreement as a precondition to obtaining a bout agreement with another boxer (Floyd Mayweather) signed by the same promoter(TMT). Seems like Floyd knows he can't violate the Ali Act....so one has to wonder if Floyd is really scared to fight Pacquiao. Why all the fuss in fighting a "has been"? Read between the lines....Mayweather is a coward.

        http://www.boxingscene.com/stiverne-...ali-act--71452
        TMT is not a promotion company. Mayweather promotions is his boxing company. TMT is like a circle of friends, a life style.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View Post
          But we should take your word over theirs.....lol. After boxing he will get many endorsements if he chooses to. While he's in the midst of his career its obvious he doesnt need them, after his career He wont be in the spotlight of boxing therefore he wont have the mic in his face while PROMOTING the fight. Unless you guys still dont get that he does this act or previously did it as a way of PROMOTING his fights, hell he even has admitted as much. And if he didnt promote himself the way he does he would be Andre Ward (great skills but hardly any fans, Sugar shane was always classy and humble and most of you didnt support him or recognize his skill, so cut out the bovine scatology. Look at Gary Russell Jr, he has tremendous ability and all class yet most of you pay him no mind and he's whooping people (i know he needs to step up the comp, but people at his weight are scared to give him a shot. the same could be said for GGG, but he's ***** so its different).
          Don't take my word home skillet, here is the quote from ATT and Reebok from a 2010 Las Vegas Review Journal:

          "AT&T does not sponsor Floyd Mayweather Jr. We have sponsored several boxing matches, including one that Mr. Mayweather fought in (vs. Shane Mosley on May 1, 2010), but AT&T hasn’t and currently does not sponsor Mr. Mayweather personally . . . . The initial media report stating that we sponsored him was wrong and we are in the process of correcting that . . ."

          And here is another from the same story:
          "Reebok spokesman Daniel Sarro informed the Las Vegas Review-Journal:

          Reebok does not currently have an endorsement contract with Floyd Mayweather Jr. We had a relationship with him in 2009 and earlier this year, which was centered around two specific fights.
          Last edited by QballLobo; 11-09-2013, 01:07 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by mozzer101 View Post
            TMT is not a promotion company. Mayweather promotions is his boxing company. TMT is like a circle of friends, a life style.

            Didn't know that, I thought TMT was Mayweather Promotions one in the same. Thanks for letting me know.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
              It doesn't surprise me that floyd would violate the Ali act. I doubt hes ever read a contract in his life which is why Al Haymon has him on allowance and he has no endorsements
              As suppose to ****** PAC who could be earning mayweather esque paydays had he been smart enough to leave uncle bob
              Dude just stfu your hatred for Floyd is a cancer and is going to kill you!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Hawkeye_616 View Post
                I just never heard of the Ali Act until I read the article and saw how if the case could be made against Don King, there seems to be a similarity to what TMT proposes in order for Floyd to fight Pacquiao. No parties have acted I agree. But Floyd did propose it and it seems like in the back of his teams minds, it is pretty far fetched to acquire. Just my opinion, never heard of suing from the act. All I'm asking is that the terms to me fit the prior article. Arum is a Harvard lawyer, he may be guilty of it also but smarter in his approach. do you see that the demands seem a little farfetched at least?
                Absolutely, the demand is or there a bit, but I don't at all believe it's really a sticking point for the fight to be made. I personally believe that both fighters want to fight each other and they would have by now if it weren't for arum. Arum is a very intelligent business man and promoter, however as a whole I do not believe he is good for the sport.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Hawkeye_616 View Post
                  Your right, endorsements have nothing to do with the purpose of my post. Mayweather is doing extremely if not better than any boxer even without them. The point was the suing of Don King over the Ali Act and the "proposed" demand by Floyd that the only way he'll fight pacquiao is if he joined TMT and give TMT 5 fights which in turn violate the same act. I just went off subject because another member brought up the endorsement fact. I just wonder why he isn't sponsored by a commercial corporation like Nike or something? He's the best boxer of our era, correct? Even Bradley is sponsored by Nike. Is it poor management? Maybe you can help me on this off topic issue?
                  I think it has a lot to do with the bad boy persona that he created. The bad boy persona that he created helped to catapult his popularity, but made major corporations run the opposite direction. Let's face it, we all may think Floyd is a great fighter, but none of us want or kids to act like him. I could be wrong, but I think that is the reason he doesn't have any endorsements.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View Post
                    ...I like pac and i also like floyd so unlike it seems in your writing i have no hidden agenda. It is what it is.
                    I just believe 9 out of 10 times a boxer will beat a brawler, a boxer has more options as to how they can win a fight. A brawler only has one and thats by a KO. Ill take the one with more options as opposed to only one....
                    How do you think Pac could win?
                    I agree with you 8 times out of 10 a boxer will beat a brawler. I just don't think Pacquaio is just a brawler....not a master boxer by no means but can use footwork, speed, and counter punching options also. He has an aggressive style but I don't think he's a "Bam Bam" or a "Provodnikov" type brawler. Definitely Mayweather has the edge in this fight, I just want to see the styles match up before they retire. Manny is also very unorthodox and awkward at times which may give Mayweather some problems.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Hawkeye_616 View Post
                      I agree with you 8 times out of 10 a boxer will beat a brawler. I just don't think Pacquaio is just a brawler....not a master boxer by no means but can use footwork, speed, and counter punching options also. He has an aggressive style but I don't think he's a "Bam Bam" or a "Provodnikov" type brawler. Definitely Mayweather has the edge in this fight, I just want to see the styles match up before they retire. Manny is also very unorthodox and awkward at times which may give Mayweather some problems.
                      Exactly this labeling Pacquiao as a brawler is completely ******ed, he probably has the most skilled offense out of all the fighters in our generation.

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