Was Vargas a lucky bum, decent, good, or great pugilist??

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #11
    Originally posted by hhs661
    He was always just good.. nothing more
    Yeah pretty much it there, thought Winky won their fight as well.

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    • ShamrockXpress
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      #12
      I like Vargas, he had a ton of heart, could **** and was willing to fight anyone.

      He was thrown to the wolves against Tito. He fought back well after a disastrous start and had his moments, even forcing Tito to resort to a few dirty tricks to stop his momentum. Of course tito was an animal and eventually caught up to him.

      I think it was the de la Hoya fight that ruined el feroz. To be dropped and stopped by the goldenboy really hit him hard and he was never the same again.

      He was a fighter that could have been great if he was guided correctly, more like canelo, but ultimately his warrior spirit prevented him from reaching his true potential.

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      • hhs661
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        #13
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Yeah pretty much it there, thought Winky won their fight as well.
        Same here. I think the Quartey win was his best. followed by Raul Marquez

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        • Master Splinter
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          #14
          damn solid fighter, tough as nails w good technique...got fed to the lion just a little to early...tito was vicious in that fight

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          • TOBYLEE1
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            #15
            A good fighter that just wasn't a puncher. He had decent defense on the foward march but at the end he was too brave for his chin. He fought top opposition of the time, won some and lost some.

            He was a punk with his mouth though calling himself a bully or a tough guy.

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            • AP♠
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              #16
              Tito popped his boxing cherry he wasn't the same fighter soaring up the ranks like he was before there fight.

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              • ßringer
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                #17
                Vargas was a good fighter with a real shot at being great, unfortunately he was poorly managed and put in fights above his head very early into his young career.

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                • bigsmoothh
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                  #18
                  he was just a good fighter, who left everything in the ring.

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                  • Chiboxing123
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                    #19
                    to this day my all time favorite fighter fn "FEROZ" FERNANDO VARGAS. hell of a fighter indeed. big wins against ike quarty, and winky wright. I remember being a kid and cheering so hard for him against de la hoyas girly a$$. that fight produced a huge fight party from my famliy. it was funny cause my parents house was split lol good fn memories. but if ure on here saying he was a bum then u my friend dont know $hi! about boxing. just look at his fights and tell me he didnt have some serious skills. any how he fought tito to quick. tito runied him. if trinidad was in his prime today nobody at 154 could match his power not nelo,trout lara perro. weak a$$ division compared to the ones who fought there when i was a kid.

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                    • ßringer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Big_L
                      vargas had a chance to be great but unfortunately ran into a fighter named tito trinidad, who forever changed his career. much like meldrick taylor vs. chavez.

                      his heart was second to none though. he fought em all.
                      Silly myth is silly.

                      After Chavez, Taylor moved up to welterweight where he once again became a world champion. The reason his career didn't pan out too well after that was because he was too small for the division, not because Julio Cesar Chavez ruined his career.

                      You guys put too much stock into 'Legendary Nights.'

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