If Ortiz moves down to 147 he can take over boxing

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  • MikeRo1972
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    #11
    Originally posted by Calm down mate
    It can happen to anyone. You realise that Berto beat Bradley in the amateurs right? Berto is actually a decent fighter but Ortiz ended his career, he was getting to Floyd despite what the haters say, Bradley is small man, all that muscle on his frame to make 147 shows that he is small, if he was big boned he wouldn't be able to afford to have all of that muscle at welterweight. He's a blown up jr welterweight who has been riding the luck of the Pac robbery and the faded Marquez styles fight.
    Stopped reading right there no need to continue. Good night. /thread

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    • 285Kid
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      #12
      Keith Thurman & Brad Solomon are in 147

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      • Calm down mate
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        #13
        Originally posted by MikeRo1972
        Stopped reading right there no need to continue. Good night. /thread
        He beat your boy Bradley twice in the amateurs so he can't be that bad.

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        • KingTito
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          #14
          Ortiz won't beat Floyd, and Floyd isn't the type to think any opponent is easy. He always comes prepared. Boxing is more mental than anything, and unfortunately Ortiz has shown to be a little off upstairs. I really like Ortiz and hope he becomes champion again, but I have to be honest with myself as well.

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          • MikeRo1972
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            #15
            Last post for me (you know what they say about arguing with fools). Cotto and Floyd are "my boys" as you put it and Ortiz can't hold their jock. Ward and Floyd lost as amateurs so I guess by your defenition whoever those dudes were that beat them; we should consider them potential P4P material, huh? GTFOH
            Last edited by MikeRo1972; 11-04-2013, 10:28 PM.

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            • MRKilla
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              #16
              Mane dis dude is obsessed with ortiz. I bet he watched every Dancing with the stars episode. smh

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              • mathed
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                • JDezi4
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                  #18
                  Ortiz has all the talent in the world to be the best fighter at 147, decent speed, devastating power, solid chin, athleticism, size

                  He just doesn't have anything else, and those are the more important things...

                  No boxing skills, no heart, no ring smarts, no warrior spirit...

                  Bradley is the polar opposite to Ortiz... He is all boxing skill, ring smarts, heart, and warrior spirit...

                  And yet Bradley is undefeated
                  While Ortiz has 3 EMBARRASSING losses and 2 draws, one of which was from an opponent Bradley blew out.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JDezi4
                    Ortiz has all the talent in the world to be the best fighter at 147, decent speed, devastating power, solid chin, athleticism, size

                    He just doesn't have anything else, and those are the more important things...

                    No boxing skills, no heart, no ring smarts, no warrior spirit...

                    Bradley is the polar opposite to Ortiz... He is all boxing skill, ring smarts, heart, and warrior spirit...

                    And yet Bradley is undefeated
                    While Ortiz has 3 EMBARRASSING losses and 2 draws, one of which was from an opponent Bradley blew out.
                    Agree with the bolded, but Ortiz is young and he's not even in his prime, people are writing him off when he hasn't even reached his peak, he's been in with some damn beasts for a 26 year old.

                    Ortiz needs to brush up on his technique and his defense, he seems motivated as fack to take over the game.

                    And let's be real though, undefeated records don't mean as much as people like to make out, Marciano was undefeated but he was not as good as Ali, etc etc, don't get me wrong Bradley is good but he was out on his feet against Ruslan and only a fool can think he beat Pacquiao

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Get me on record, quote me or whatever, if and when Bradley and Ortiz meet, Ortiz will whoop that ass. He is by far the more talented fighter, and by the time they meet he will have brushed up on his defense and technique.

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