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  • Simurgh
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    #51
    Originally posted by richardt
    Never go by what a sparring partner says because there is a different intensity in sparring and some fighters hold back and others do not, and sparring partners are often way off on their analysis and sometimes their memory. Stevens has a more concussive single blow but GGG has a better all around delivery of his power which has a lot to do with better continuous placement. But more so then the PSI of their punch is who will have the better punch resistance when they get in the ring and that is the mystery that will be answered Saturday. What isn't the mystery is who has more option inside those ropes....that is GGG. But anything can happen. My guess is GGG will land a concussive fight ending body shot or series of body shots to end it.
    I am not sure about that...

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      #52
      Is that an upset I smell....

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        #53
        Originally posted by Jloro
        Is that an upset I smell....
        Hahaha, come on man, you're too funny.

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        • richardt
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          #54
          Originally posted by Simurgh
          I am not sure about that...
          I am. Stevens Trainer did a complete rundown of a KO comparison and how many were one-punch KO's, how fast they ended and it was realistic and well thought out with a practical spreadsheet. Doesn't mean it will matter when they get into the ring but more for entertainment purposes when comparing their power. It comes down to who has A) more options, B) more skills, D) better defense, E) better chin, F) bigger power inside those ropes, or simply G) who lands the first big shot and if the other guy recovers well or not. I think GGG is a B+ fighter meaning one of the best if not the best in the division and Stevens is a C fighter but anything can happen. If GGG wins as expected, I think he beats any other middleweight. Martinez with age, injuries and delays does not bode well for him against GGG and after Quillins last fight, I think GGG blows through him.
          Last edited by richardt; 10-30-2013, 04:05 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by richardt
            I am. Stevens Trainer did a complete rundown of a KO comparison and how many were one-punch KO's, how fast they ended and it was realistic and well thought out with a practical spreadsheet. Doesn't mean it will matter when they get into the ring but more for entertainment purposes when comparing their power. It comes down to who has A) more options, B) more skills, D) better defense, E) better chin, F) bigger power inside those ropes, or simply G) who lands the first big shot and if the other guy recovers well or not. I think GGG is a B+ fighter meaning one of the best if not the best in the division and Stevens is a C fighter but anything can happen. If GGG wins as expected, I think he beats any other middleweight. Martinez with age, injuries and delays does not bode well for him against GGG and after Quillins last fight, I think GGG blows through him.
            GGG one punch KOed Ishida who'd never been down, fought Pirog, PWill, Kirkland. 1 punch KOed Simon in 1 who went 12 with AA and never stopped before. 1 punched Macklin. That's 3 guys tougher than anyone Stevens has 1 punch KOed, possibly tougher than anyone Stevens has ever beat.

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            • T18Z
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              #56
              Originally posted by Jloro
              Is that an upset I smell....
              No, it's your lack of hygiene.

              An upset ain't gonna happen.

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                #57
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                GGG one punch KOed Ishida who'd never been down, fought Pirog, PWill, Kirkland. 1 punch KOed Simon in 1 who went 12 with AA and never stopped before. 1 punched Macklin. That's 3 guys tougher than anyone Stevens has 1 punch KOed, possibly tougher than anyone Stevens has ever beat.
                I personally don't judge who is tougher of the opponents because that is subjective. Some guys can have 10 losses and take better punches than a guy who is 20-0. My instincts and the data I read tell me Stevens per single punch hits harder that GGG. Doesn't mean it will equate in the ring but it may be the only advantage Stevens has unless one guy takes a much bigger shot and then the other or shows recuperative powers over the other. I see Stevens as the harder puncher.....that's just my opinion based of what I have seen. I see GGG as having more ring IQ and skills which is just my opinion too till they get in the ring. But anything can happen. I also see Chad Dawson as being a way better boxer than Adonis Stevenson but that didn't help him last 2 minutes. One punch either way can change anything. Anything can happen and nothing surprises me anymore like it used to 10 years ago.
                Last edited by richardt; 10-30-2013, 04:34 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by T18Z
                  No, it's your lack of hygiene.

                  An upset ain't gonna happen.
                  lol

                  Originally posted by hougigo
                  Hahaha, come on man, you're too funny.
                  I highly doubt it will happen but there is a slight chance for it. It would have to be like Mares-Gonzalez

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by richardt
                    I personally don't judge who is tougher of the opponents because that is subjective. Some guys can have 10 losses and take better punches than a guy who is 20-0. My instincts and the data I read tell me Stevens per single punch hits harder that GGG. Doesn't mean it will equate in the ring but it may be the only advantage Stevens has unless one guy takes a much bigger shot and then the other or shows recuperative powers over the other. I see Stevens as the harder puncher.....that's just my opinion based of what I have seen. I see GGG as having more ring IQ and skills which is just my opinion too till they get in the ring. But anything can happen. I also see Chad Dawson as being a way better boxer than Adonis Stevenson but that didn't help him last 2 minutes. One punch either way can change anything. Anything can happen and nothing surprises me anymore like it used to 10 years ago.
                    Yeah but you were talking track record above, so I took you up on that. Stevens has not shown that power against any decent and durable opponent, in fact just struggled against one. GGG has shown 1 punch power against several of those.

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                    • Hougigo
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Jloro
                      lol



                      I highly doubt it will happen but there is a slight chance for it. It would have to be like Mares-Gonzalez
                      Fanboy-ism aside. Do you really think there's a better chance of an upset here than Rosado/Chocolate?

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