Kell Brook vs Vyacheslav Senchenko RbR

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  • El Angel
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    #301
    Originally posted by RubenSonny
    Gattis chin wasn't great.

    How do you know Senchenko has a good chin, what has ever indicated that?
    So when your chin isn't great, that makes it glass? No. '

    He's never been down before tonight. I wasn't calling him Oliver McCall or anything like that, but he must have a respectable set of whiskers.

    Or am I supposed to assume it sucks until he actually proves it sucks?

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    • LacedUp
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      #302
      Originally posted by RubenSonny
      Did I indicate he did? Did I say it would take an impressive fighter to beat Brook?
      Yes you did. You said you hadn't been impressed by Kell Brook - either previously or today - to that you related Devon Alexander and said (on the basis of that) he should win without much trouble.

      Now for someone to state they weren't impressed with one man, and then go on to relate another man's skills in the ring and find them superior - I take that as saying you have been impressed by Alexander at some stage.

      Now to that I ask, when has the man impressed you to the extent that he should deal with Kell Brook 'without much trouble'?

      Because, when has Alexander dealt with anyone decent without much trouble?

      Please enlighten me.

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      • RubenSonny
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        #303
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Yes you did. You said you hadn't been impressed by Kell Brook - either previously or today - to that you related Devon Alexander and said (on the basis of that) he should win without much trouble.

        Now for someone to state they weren't impressed with one man, and then go on to relate another man's skills in the ring and find them superior - I take that as saying you have been impressed by Alexander at some stage.

        Now to that I ask, when has the man impressed you to the extent that he should deal with Kell Brook 'without much trouble'?

        Because, when has Alexander dealt with anyone decent without much trouble?

        Please enlighten me.
        No I never said anything about him impressing me, you just pulled that one out of your ass. Just because I think someone is superior to Kell Brook it doesn't mean I think they are impressive.

        Stop trying to put words in my post.

        I don't think it takes someone impressive to beat Kell Brook.

        I don't consider Kell Brook decent.

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        • RubenSonny
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          #304
          Originally posted by El Angel
          So when your chin isn't great, that makes it glass? No. '

          He's never been down before tonight. I wasn't calling him Oliver McCall or anything like that, but he must have a respectable set of whiskers.

          Or am I supposed to assume it sucks until he actually proves it sucks?
          Not being down doesn't mean you have a respectable set of whiskers, and there is nothing to suggest he had good punch resistance, his competition has been awful.

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          • El Angel
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            #305
            Originally posted by RubenSonny
            Not being down doesn't mean you have a respectable set of whiskers, and there is nothing to suggest he had good punch resistance, his competition has been awful.
            So every single guy he fought couldn't punch at all? I find that hard to believe, even with his low level of competition. Brook was just much better than anyone he had ever fought before.

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            • Sparked_26
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              #306
              Originally posted by RubenSonny
              No I never said anything about him impressing me, you just pulled that one out of your ass. Just because I think someone is superior to Kell Brook it doesn't mean I think they are impressive.

              Stop trying to put words in my post.

              I don't think it takes someone impressive to beat Kell Brook.

              I don't consider Kell Brook decent.
              So what is he then?

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              • BennyST
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                #307
                Originally posted by Light_Speed
                And that shows how ****** you are.

                Stopped on cuts = glass jaw.
                Vitali Klitschko is a glass jawed pansy!

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                  #308
                  Originally posted by El Angel
                  So every single guy he fought couldn't punch at all? I find that hard to believe, even with his low level of competition. Brook was just much better than anyone he had ever fought before.
                  I don't know how long you have been watching boxing but there have been a lot of chinny fighters who had never been down before because there record was padded. All you know is that he has never been down before, but he never fought anyone notable, you don't know if he was ever hurt or stunned either. When he fought Paulie he was stopped on cuts and he KO'ed a shot Hatton, nothing in either of those fights suggest he has a decent chin. There is nothing to suggest that stopping this guy was impressive or some kind of accomplishment.

                  Originally posted by Sparked_26
                  So what is he then?
                  A poor fighter.

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                  • El Angel
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                    #309
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny
                    I don't know how long you have been watching boxing but there have been a lot of chinny fighters who had never been down before because there record was padded. All you know is that he has never been down before, but he never fought anyone notable, you don't know if he was ever hurt or stunned either. When he fought Paulie he was stopped on cuts and he KO'ed a shot Hatton, nothing in either of those fights suggest he has a decent chin. There is nothing to suggest that stopping this guy was impressive or some kind of accomplishment.
                    Of course there are a lot of chinny fighters that are protected, but you can't say that based on 1 fight, a guy is "glass chinned" when he had never been down before. That was my whole issue with the post I referred to.

                    Not an impressive or jaw dropping performance, but it is what he should do to fighters on the level of Senchenko.

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                    • Light_Speed
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                      #310
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      Stopped on cuts against Paulie weak constitution. U wanna say he's not glass jawed I say he fits I to the definition. Just like I call linares glass jawed. Have had this convo before, look it up.
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      Gatti didmt get stopped on cuts by Paulie malignaggi now did he?
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      Not sure that really matters. When was the last time Paulie busted up someone's face? I've followed Paulie for some time, I've never seen it honestly.
                      You think causing cuts has anything to do with power or punch resistance. You're embarassing yourself son, stop it.

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