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  • -PBP-
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    #31
    Originally posted by puga
    nah ..iwas trying to tell you what ordinary people like .. you on the other hand act like black people are different , somehow special...i think it's a feel good thing..
    Not at all. All I said is boxing isn't that big which it isn't.

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    • .Mexico.
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      #32
      Originally posted by PBP
      Ward, Bradley and Hopkins are millionaires and have either already or will headline PPvs. But they will never become mega stars because their fan bases are small. And the primary reason is the lack of interest in boxing in black America.

      And everybody knows who Bernard Hopkins is. But my point is, every boxing megastar nowadays:

      Pacquiao, Cotto, Canelo, have a core fan base that has allowed them to reach superstardom. Bradley, Ward, Rigo, etc. don't have that. I'd be shocked if Thurman and Quillin ever reach that level of superstardom.


      Mayweather has done it through winning and celebrity appeal outside of the ring and that's the route Broner is taking. Bradley, Ward and Rigo are quiet and humble and won't ever get that cross over appeal.

      Sergio Martinez isn't boring and he isn't a megastar in America. Same thing different group.
      Black People if you will are known for not supporting their own people, they will never have a Mexican turn out to one of their fights, and what I believe fuels that is the lack of exciting Black fighters.

      Their is probably 2 exciting black fighters in all of boxing, (well american black, and lets be honest that all who american blacks care about) and that Broner and Wilder, they roll with Mayweather because He's mayweather and they love the hate mayweather gets and they feed off that. But off pure excitment thats the only 2 exciting black boxers in boxing today, one broner is barley getting known the other wilder is not known at all.


      so giving all that its no reason Black Boxers dont get their support.

      Basically saying what you are saying, but broke it down why that is.

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        #33
        Originally posted by .Mexico.
        Black People if you will are known for not supporting their own people, they will never have a Mexican turn out to one of their fights, and what I believe fuels that is the lack of exciting Black fighters.

        Their is probably 2 exciting black fighters in all of boxing, (well american black, and lets be honest that all who american blacks care about) and that Broner and Wilder, they roll with Mayweather because He's mayweather and they love the hate mayweather gets and they feed off that. But off pure excitment thats the only 2 exciting black boxers in boxing today, one broner is barley getting known the other wilder is not known at all.


        so giving all that its no reason Black Boxers dont get their support.

        Basically saying what you are saying, but broke it down why that is.
        Mayweather is the biggest star ever and he isn't known for having exciting fights. Based on that alone there is no correlation between exciting fighters and superstardom.

        The thing all super stars have in common is greatness, support from core fan base and cross over appeal. Or some combination of the three.

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          #34
          Originally posted by PBP
          Not at all. All I said is boxing isn't that big which it isn't.
          thats not all you said ..anyone with half brain knows what you were getting at ..no biggie , but be creative next time if youre gonna deny it ..

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            #35
            Originally posted by puga
            thats not all you said ..anyone with half brain knows what you were getting at ..no biggie , but be creative next time if youre gonna deny it ..
            I don't need to be creative.I'm a straight shooter and everything I said is 100% correct.

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              #36
              Originally posted by PBP
              I don't need to be creative.I'm a straight shooter and everything I said is 100% correct.
              then if you belive that im right about " the feel good thing " too ...like i said , it's no biggie, just dont act like we dont know where youre getting at ....

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                #37
                Originally posted by PBP
                Mayweather is the biggest star ever and he isn't known for having exciting fights. Based on that alone there is no correlation between exciting fighters and superstardom.

                The thing all super stars have in common is greatness, support from core fan base and cross over appeal. Or some combination of the three.
                Mayweather is the product of his envoirment. He is the only fighter that lived in the social media where as it is now, he is the only fighter of his caliber to not have real competition available.

                Product of his envoirment.

                you telling me, Mike tyson today wouldent out do Mayweather in every aspect, or Oscar, or Ali?

                like I said he is a product of his envoirment what everyone seems to forget.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  Neither broner nor Bradley are defensive minded fighters. U should really be clear what ur talking about before u make threads like this.
                  I was thinking the same thing.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by .Mexico.
                    Mayweather is the product of his envoirment. He is the only fighter that lived in the social media where as it is now, he is the only fighter of his caliber to not have real competition available.

                    Product of his envoirment.

                    you telling me, Mike tyson today wouldent out do Mayweather in every aspect, or Oscar, or Ali?

                    like I said he is a product of his envoirment what everyone seems to forget.
                    Mike Tyson had cross over appeal and achieved greatness. Plus his antics outside of the ring helped too. Same with Ali.

                    He did the same thing Floyd did. Trash talk and hype the fight up.

                    And all fighters have the benefit of social media.
                    Last edited by -PBP-; 10-26-2013, 12:10 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by puga
                      then if you belive that im right about " the feel good thing " too ...like i said , it's no biggie, just dont act like we dont know where youre getting at ....
                      And I know where your getting at. You think I'm pulling the race card and saying "these fighters get hated on because they are black". Which is incorrect and speaks more about your reading comprehension more so than anything.

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