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  • #51
    he's a very good fighter. all things considered he's basically a black danny garcia, with danny having more power and bradley having more speed. he's a guy who can check just about every box when it comes to attributes with only his speed being a little better then most.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by DonMega View Post
      I don't get how people keep saying Marquez landed the harder punches. That's just weird to me....
      Because that's what happened.

      Marquez outlanded Bradley in power punches. Bradley outlanded Marquez in jabs.

      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...rquez-compubox

      That was basically the 12 round "schooling" and "clear victory" that Bradley had. 82 jabs landed out of 337 jabs thrown, and he only threw 562 punches in total. Why I say "only" despite 562 punches thrown bing pretty good, is because if you're going to through 337 jabs, that better be out like 1,000 total punches. So a very large percentage of his activity were jabs. In fact, I just did the calculations right now, and 60% of Bradley's output were jabs. (562*60%=337.2).

      60% of your punches thrown were jabs? That's way too much.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by AntonTheMeh View Post
        he's a very good fighter. all things considered he's basically a black danny garcia, with danny having more power and bradley having more speed. he's a guy who can check just about every box when it comes to attributes with only his speed being a little better then most.
        I feel DG is better. He's better to watch, gets his wins in better fashion, has better wins/accomplishments at 25 than Bradley did. One coming against a guy Bradley publicly/verbally ducked, Khan, by TKO. By 30, I expect DG's accomplishments and resume to become twice as good as it is now. You could tell Garcia got better than he was in early 2012 and past. It's hard to deny it. Look at him be a shy fighter against Holt and Morales. Then he comes out of his shell, knocks out Khan, knocks out Morales, goes to war with Judah, injures Matthysse's face. He's a better fighter now than he was a year ago, and I expect him to be even better in 2014. He's going to go in 2014 highly confident because he knows he just dispatched of a guy who was seen as a monster by most fans and some fighters.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          Because that's what happened.

          Marquez outlanded Bradley in power punches. Bradley outlanded Marquez in jabs.

          http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...rquez-compubox

          That was basically the 12 round "schooling" and "clear victory" that Bradley had. 82 jabs landed out of 337 jabs thrown, and he only threw 562 punches in total. Why I say "only" despite 562 punches thrown bing pretty good, is because if you're going to through 337 jabs, that better be out like 1,000 total punches. So a very large percentage of his activity were jabs. In fact, I just did the calculations right now, and 60% of Bradley's output were jabs. (562*60%=337.2).

          60% of your punches thrown were jabs? That's way too much.
          on boxrec it shows bradley 168 punches landed and 86 were power. The math to that shows that 51% of bradleys punches were power which means 49% were jabs.

          Marquez was 75% power and 25% jabs

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          • #55
            Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            I feel DG is better. He's better to watch, gets his wins in better fashion, has better wins/accomplishments at 25 than Bradley did. One coming against a guy Bradley publicly/verbally ducked, Khan, by TKO. By 30, I expect DG's accomplishments and resume to become twice as good as it is now. You could tell Garcia got better than he was in early 2012 and past. It's hard to deny it. Look at him be a shy fighter against Holt and Morales. Then he comes out of his shell, knocks out Khan, knocks out Morales, goes to war with Judah, injures Matthysse's face. He's a better fighter now than he was a year ago, and I expect him to be even better in 2014. He's going to go in 2014 highly confident because he knows he just dispatched of a guy who was seen as a monster by most fans and some fighters.
            Danny's improving every fight, and especially his power, he's punching harder and sharper every single fight.

            He's so much better now than the fighter who struggled with Theophane.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              I feel DG is better. He's better to watch, gets his wins in better fashion, has better wins/accomplishments at 25 than Bradley did. One coming against a guy Bradley publicly/verbally ducked, Khan, by TKO. By 30, I expect DG's accomplishments and resume to become twice as good as it is now. You could tell Garcia got better than he was in early 2012 and past. It's hard to deny it. Look at him be a shy fighter against Holt and Morales. Then he comes out of his shell, knocks out Khan, knocks out Morales, goes to war with Judah, injures Matthysse's face. He's a better fighter now than he was a year ago, and I expect him to be even better in 2014. He's going to go in 2014 highly confident because he knows he just dispatched of a guy who was seen as a monster by most fans and some fighters.
              that's where the power comes into play.

              in terms of accomplishments, i don't think he's done as much as danny, particularly, at that young an age, but in terms of his skillset i think is about an apt comparison as i can come up with at the moment..

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              • #57
                Originally posted by kardsufur View Post
                on boxrec it shows bradley 168 punches landed and 86 were power. The math to that shows that 51% of bradleys punches were power which means 49% were jabs.

                Marquez was 75% power and 25% jabs
                You are mentioning his total punches landed. I'm mentioning the total amount of jabs he threw, which was 337(jabs), out of 562 total punches, means 60% of his total punches thrown were jabs.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by kardsufur View Post
                  Yeah was that a jab that put marquez on ***** street in round 12 and staggered him
                  So first Bradley "owned" Pacquaio and Marquez when one was a robbery and the other was a debatable decision.

                  Now he had Marquez on "***** street" cos he caught him off balance in an exchange?

                  Stop watching boxing

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    So first Bradley "owned" Pacquaio and Marquez when one was a robbery and the other was a debatable decision.

                    Now he had Marquez on "***** street" cos he caught him off balance in an exchange?

                    Stop watching boxing
                    A close fight can't be a robbery. Many professional boxing writers including Dwyer (yes he's a PROFESSIONAL, he makes money from boxing ******** and vlogs) had Bradley winning the Pacquiao fight so no it wasn't a robbery. You're just mad your man got owned

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      So first Bradley "owned" Pacquaio and Marquez when one was a robbery and the other was a debatable decision.

                      Now he had Marquez on "***** street" cos he caught him off balance in an exchange?

                      Stop watching boxing
                      So many people are acting like Bradley badly rocked Marquez

                      He clearly didn't.

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