I like Bradley, but he's just not that good.

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  • -Kev-
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    #71
    Originally posted by Bee Keepz
    I don't know about DG being the better fighter, but I agree he's better to watch and wins in better fashion.

    Pacquiao/Provodnikov/Marquez are no slouches - 2/3 I rank up there as ATGs.
    I'd expect Garcia to have a much better showing against Provodnikov and Marquez than Bradley did. Garcia is just more physically stronger, hard to stun(I know Judah stunned him, but Matthysse couldn't even move him), won't run away, has the power/defense to stay and trade, is like 5' 9". I think Garcia is a bad style match up for Marquez because he's so much bigger and despite him being more on the stationery side, he's not exactly a sitting duck.

    I admit Garcia is not ready for Pacquiao and his activity right now, understandably. I think Pacquiao cuts up Garcia with his speed and UD's him.

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      #72
      Bradley beats everyone at 147 besides Floyd

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        #73
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        I'd expect Garcia to have a much better showing against Provodnikov and Marquez than Bradley did. Garcia is just more physically stronger, hard to stun(I know Judah stunned him, but Matthysse couldn't even move him), won't run away, has the power/defense to stay and trade, is like 5' 9". I think Garcia is a bad style match up for Marquez because he's so much bigger and despite him being more on the stationery side, he's not exactly a sitting duck.

        I admit Garcia is not ready for Pacquiao and his activity right now, understandably. I think Pacquiao cuts up Garcia with his speed and UD's him.
        I disagree with him beating Marquez easier than Tim did n. I think he struggles with Juan

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        • jackson8
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          #74
          He handled Marquez easy after Marquez's biggest win of his career. You can't be "not that good" and do that.

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            #75
            Originally posted by BigZigga
            I disagree with him beating Marquez easier than Tim did n. I think he struggles with Juan
            JMM is an ATG but he has his limits. Garcia would be too big/tall, could take big shots, isn't exactly a brawler, won't try to jab JMM to 12 rounds, he's gonna go in there and try to KO Marquez. And JMM being basically at his body's limit, I think physically imposing dudes like Garcia, Cotto, Canelo, are too much for Marquez. Their styles in relation to their size would be too difficult for a 5' 6" former Featherweight at WW to overcome.

            Keep in mind Pacquiao and Bradley are relatively small WW's(don't rehydrate too much) with short heights. Mayweather is also a small WW who has never been physically imposing on any one.

            Garcia will be much bigger, have height advantage, and very powerful, with a good chin and good defense. I'd have Garcia by UD clearly.

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              #76
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              JMM is an ATG but he has his limits. Garcia would be too big/tall, could take big shots, isn't exactly a brawler, won't try to jab JMM to 12 rounds, he's gonna go in there and try to KO Marquez. And JMM being basically at his body's limit, I think physically imposing dudes like Garcia, Cotto, Canelo, are too much for Marquez. Their styles in relation to their size would be too difficult for a 5' 6" former Featherweight at WW to overcome.

              Keep in mind Pacquiao and Bradley are relatively small WW's(don't rehydrate too much) with short heights. Mayweather is also a small WW who has never been physically imposing on any one.

              Garcia will be much bigger, have height advantage, and very powerful, with a good chin and good defense. I'd have Garcia by UD clearly.
              I'm not saying Garcia wouldn't win. I'm saying he wouldn't beat him as easily as Bradley did

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                #77
                He aight..

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BigZigga
                  I'm not saying Garcia wouldn't win. I'm saying he wouldn't beat him as easily as Bradley did
                  He would clearly beat him IMO. Something Bradley did not do(Had it a Draw).

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                  • Weebler I
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    JMM is an ATG but he has his limits. Garcia would be too big/tall, could take big shots, isn't exactly a brawler, won't try to jab JMM to 12 rounds, he's gonna go in there and try to KO Marquez. And JMM being basically at his body's limit, I think physically imposing dudes like Garcia, Cotto, Canelo, are too much for Marquez. Their styles in relation to their size would be too difficult for a 5' 6" former Featherweight at WW to overcome.

                    Keep in mind Pacquiao and Bradley are relatively small WW's(don't rehydrate too much) with short heights. Mayweather is also a small WW who has never been physically imposing on any one.

                    Garcia will be much bigger, have height advantage, and very powerful, with a good chin and good defense. I'd have Garcia by UD clearly.
                    Marquez beats Garcia imo. JMM has difficulty when he's forced to come forward against movers. Garcia would come forward in their bout and his footwork is average at best, he's no mover.

                    JMM picks him off counter-punching, too skilled for Garcia imo. I don't think JMM would be bothered by his size either, he's accurate and under Memo he's also powerful.

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                    • Bee Keepz
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by jackson8
                      He handled Marquez easy after Marquez's biggest win of his career. You can't be "not that good" and do that.
                      I don't have a problem with Bradley winning, but "easy" and "handled"?!?!

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