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  • Originally posted by PBP View Post
    I can answer that.

    Timothy Bradley

    Country: USA
    Record: 27-0-0 (11 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 1 | Last Week: 1 | Weeks On List: 148
    Titles: WBC, WBO

    Amir Khan

    Country: UK
    Record: 24-1-0 (17 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 2 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 86
    Title: WBA

    Marcos Maidana

    Country: Argentina
    Record: 29-2-0 (27 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 3 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 121
    Devon Alexander

    Country: USA
    Record: 21-1-0 (13 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 4 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 84

    Andreas Kotelnik

    Country: Ukraine
    Record: 31-4-1 (13 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 5 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 155

    Juan Urango

    Country: USA
    Record: 22-2-1 (17 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 6 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 144

    Zab Judah

    Country: USA
    Record: 41-6 (28 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 7 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1

    Lamont Peterson

    Country: USA
    Record: 28-1-1 (14 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 8 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 45

    Victor Ortiz

    Country: USA
    Record: 28-2-2 (22 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 9 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 13

    Paul McCloskey

    Country: UK
    Record: 21-0-0 (11 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: 10 | Last Week: 10 | Weeks On List: 1
    He's ranked below Juan Urango on that list. Enough said. Not credible at all.

    The other names above him, Khan either beat (Kotelnik, Maidana) or they ducked Khan (Bradley). Zab Judah was his best available opponent after Bradley turned down the fight.

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    • Originally posted by mathed View Post
      Bottom line is Bradley was the man at 140
      How can you be "the man" at a weight class when you avoid fighting your number 1 challenger.

      See Danny Garcia for the real definition of what you just said.

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      • Everybody who watched the Pacquiao fight knows Bradley lost convincingly. You can also make a case that he lost to Provodnikov. He beat Marquez but it was close and the guy is 40 already.

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        • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          He's ranked below Juan Urango on that list. Enough said. Not credible at all.

          The other names above him, Khan either beat (Kotelnik, Maidana) or they ducked Khan (Bradley). Zab Judah was his best available opponent after Bradley turned down the fight.
          Nobody said he wasn't. The argument is about was whether he was top 5. Which he wasn't.

          And if you disagree with that list, then swap Matthysse with Urango since you felt Matthysse beat Judah.

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          • Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
            Dude those rankings are wrong you put up..It has Khan as the number 2 fighter in the div when he had not fought Paulie M or Maidana yet..Look at the 09 rankings they are wrong..

            Not to mention it has Alexander ranked ahead of Urango and they did not even fight until 2010..Sorry those rankings ate clearly wrong..I remember Holt being top 5..Paulie WA not, and that link was a joke..
            They're The Ring rankings for the last day of that year.

            They aren't wrong. That's how The Ring had them ranked at the end of the year.

            Holt wasn't Top 5, I'm sorry.

            Neither was Judah and it seems Pauli was #6 at the time after research.

            That said, Bradley still didn't beat more.

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            • Originally posted by Vilicious86 View Post
              The Marquez fight was the first time Bradley truly looked above average in my eyes. He's always been solid in several different categories, but I was never impressed by him to be honest.
              But how much of that is because Marquez is 40? In the Pacquiao fight, he looked bad before he got that KO.

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              • Originally posted by PBP View Post
                Nobody said he wasn't. The argument is about was whether he was top 5. Which he wasn't. .
                It's not a factual argument though so you can't really say that. Trying to say he wasn't top 5 is a backhanded way of diminishing Khan's win when he fought the best available opponent out there.

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                • Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                  People talking about compubox as if it is an accurate description is pure ******ity ..

                  Bradley not being good or elite is just ****** and let's me know,TS started following Bradley maybe around his fight with either Alexander or Casamayor..Bradley has beat a lot of opponents in a onesided fashion..

                  Outside of Prov,nobody has hit Bradley cleanly often..Before anyone say's Pac,once again,compubox is a joke..Pac landed 253 punches..LMAO what a joke..

                  These videos clearly shows Pac has no problem tagging Bradley with clean shots after shots even with his half ass performance.




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                  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    It's not a factual argument though so you can't really say that. Trying to say he wasn't top 5 is a backhanded way of diminishing Khan's win when he fought the best available opponent out there.
                    Well that's another issue. Iron Dan and Rome were comparing top 5 opponents and neither Judah , Paulie or Holt was.

                    So they both beat 2

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...rweight--2000s

                      End of 2009 Pauli was #5

                      Khan fought him in 2010 in which he hadn't moved.

                      As I said, Pauli was #5 when khan fought him.

                      I just looked at the rankings and Holt wasn't top 5 when Bradley fought him either.


                      So Bradley hasn't beaten more top 5 ranked JWW's than Khan, he's beaten less.

                      Khan - Maidana, Kotelnik, Pauli

                      Bradley - Alexander and Witter.
                      Of course Holt would not be ranked number 5 at yrs end if he'd loss to Bradley within the yr...Holt was a top 5 fighter when Bradley beat him..

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