I like Bradley, but he's just not that good.

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  • -Kev-
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    #141
    It was close, but I had Khan beating Peterson. I was not angry at the decision though, because of Khan's excessive shoving. There was also a sloppy "KD" that looked more like a shove. In the end, I thought Khan outpointed Peterson despite LP coming on strong.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #142
      Originally posted by PBP
      So if Judah lost to Matthysse, why would he be a top 5 fighter?
      I didn't say Judah. I said Peterson and Alexander. Judah did lose to Matthysse IMO but it was much closer than say the Alexander fight. He won the IBF title in his next fight after Matthysse. I want to know who the 5 fighters ranked above him were?

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      • badnewsbrown
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        #143
        Originally posted by True Alpha Male
        Don't get me wrong I'm not hating, I admire his chin, relentlessness and will but he's just not 'elite', he doesn't have the 'it factor'. He has no power, and his defense really isn't anything special either, he is certainly not 'slick' it pisses me off when I hear people call him slick and a 'technician' like Schafer did, I think the 'slick' label simply comes from him being African American.

        He's now ranked no3 p4p by the ring which is an absolute joke, sorry but he would get beaten again by Pacquiao easily, Ortiz would possibly beat him(yes I did just say that ), Danny Garcia would beat him and he'd have zero chance against Mayweather.

        A robbery against Pac and a out boxing of an old man? Sorry I'm not buying the hype, yeah I know you'll bring up the Marquez KO but I don't follow triangle theories, Marquez always had Pac's number and even then you have to remember that they fought 4 times and Pac knocked him down like 5 times.

        I like Bradley, but he's nothing special.
        My opinion of Bradley remains the same since i saw him first prior to the Witter fight - he's good at everything but not special in any one area.

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        • Ray*
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          #144
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          No way he was Top 5 at 140 when they fought.
          Yea that was a corpse that was recycled by Arum, that isn't the real casa.

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          • -PBP-
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            #145
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            I didn't say Judah. I said Peterson and Alexander. Judah did lose to Matthysse IMO but it was much closer than say the Alexander fight. He won the IBF title in his next fight after Matthysse. I want to know who the 5 fighters ranked above him were?
            I can answer that.

            Timothy Bradley

            Country: USA
            Record: 27-0-0 (11 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 1 | Last Week: 1 | Weeks On List: 148
            Titles: WBC, WBO

            Amir Khan

            Country: UK
            Record: 24-1-0 (17 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 2 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 86
            Title: WBA

            Marcos Maidana

            Country: Argentina
            Record: 29-2-0 (27 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 3 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 121
            Devon Alexander

            Country: USA
            Record: 21-1-0 (13 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 4 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 84

            Andreas Kotelnik

            Country: Ukraine
            Record: 31-4-1 (13 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 5 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 155

            Juan Urango

            Country: USA
            Record: 22-2-1 (17 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 6 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 144

            Zab Judah

            Country: USA
            Record: 41-6 (28 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 7 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1

            Lamont Peterson

            Country: USA
            Record: 28-1-1 (14 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 8 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 45

            Victor Ortiz

            Country: USA
            Record: 28-2-2 (22 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 9 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 13

            Paul McCloskey

            Country: UK
            Record: 21-0-0 (11 KOs)
            Ranking: This Week: 10 | Last Week: 10 | Weeks On List: 1

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            • -PBP-
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              #146
              And if you thought he lost to Matthysse he should have been lower than 7. But that doesn't really help your argument.
              Last edited by -PBP-; 10-26-2013, 05:25 PM.

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              • Rome-By-Ko
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                #147
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                The Khan fight was 2010, the Hatton fight was 2008. Paulie had redeemed himself by beating Juan Diaz at JWW.
                Beating Diaz did not put Paulie in the top 5 bro..Diaz had just been ko'd by Marquez and beat Paulie in a fight most thought Paulie had won..Paulie was not top 5..

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                • GeneralZod
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                  #148
                  He's goofy as sht but he beat Marquez, Provodnikov and at least was able to hang with Pacman.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    Sorry bro your wrong..Paulie was out of the to 5 after his loss to Hatton..Judah also was number 6 ranked..I'm not home right now, but when i get there I'll post the thread after Khan beat Judah and moved into the number spot at Jr WW..

                    Once again you are downplaying Bradley..He has beat more top 5 opponents then Danny and Khan..
                    Pauli was #5 i know that for a 100% fact.

                    Not 100% on Judah but I think he was.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      Beating Diaz did not put Paulie in the top 5 bro..Diaz had just been ko'd by Marquez and beat Paulie in a fight most thought Paulie had won..Paulie was not top 5..
                      Go and check the rankings.

                      He was #5

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