Dwyer: Bradley should retire now, not ruin legacy like Roy Jones

[billeau2]

What legacy? He's 30 years old and has never been the man to beat in a weight class. He still needs to put in like 3-4 more years of work to be considered a HOF'er. His fights with Pacquiao and Marquez showed he's good enough to fight close fights with ATG's, but can he really beat them?

Well said....bradley has a bunch of judge's victories, he is yet to beat a great fighter convincingly. Remember when Taylor beat Hopkins? Nobody really thinks he beat Hopkins. Bradley has done nothing to show he beat anyone. I feel for the guy....Frankly? I don't agree with Dwyer but I anticipate that any day now if he continues fighting he will get exposed.

A rematch with Pac? he would get starched....again.

[Bushidō]

he's really just beginning. He's still not a household name. Maybe if he can legitimately beat Pacquiao in a rematch.

[billeau2]

Dwyer, himself, should have retired from youtube some time ago. He's talked nothing but nonsense for a while now.

Then has the balls to try and charge money to view some of those videos.

Lately....the patina on his dome has lost a bit of luster I love his commentary but sometimes he has veered into the territory of "ridiculous."

[billeau2]

Dwyer is really talking about head to head the best of the era, as opposed to depth of resume.

I.e. Mayweather is considered greater than Marquez because he beat him. Bradley's claim as best being the wins over Marquez and Pacquiao.

E.g. Froch could beat every SMW and LHW out there, but he'll always be considered inferior to Ward because he lost to him (and Kessler who lost to Ward).

But there is something to be said for how you win those fights....Bradley's victories that matter could all be defeats just as easily because we know judges suck. If Glen Johnson had got a few more he deserved, and Bradley a few less we might be discussing the road warrior!

[Grimgash]

But there is something to be said for how you win those fights....Bradley's victories that matter could all be defeats just as easily because we know judges suck. If Glen Johnson had got a few more he deserved, and Bradley a few less we might be discussing the road warrior!

Pac should've won. Prov was close either way you can't scream robbery. Marquez was clear victory. I agree they're close, though 2 of the three imo were the right call.

[SN!PER]

Yeah right! All the hell he went through to make it to the top, he's not going to quit until he gets his big money fight with Mayweather.

[J The UnBiased]

Roy Jones Jr. did not ruin his legacy and neither will Bradley. There's still good wins out there, especially if he leaves Top Rank; he is only a few wins away from becoming a top draw, and it doesn't really look like he's on the slide as a fighter. No reason for him to call it quits.

Exactly, anyone who claims Roy ruined his legacy, I automatically write off. I stopped counting Roy fights as additions or subtractions to his legacy after Calzaghe. But I did enjoy him beating Lacy lol, that dude was awful.

[kardsufur]

Dwyer is now a member of these forums as of recently so hopefully he will chime in here too

[Weebler I]

Exactly, anyone who claims Roy ruined his legacy, I automatically write off. I stopped counting Roy fights as additions or subtractions to his legacy after Calzaghe. But I did enjoy him beating Lacy lol, that dude was awful.

You can't really do that though, i.e. pick arbitrary points from which to judge a fighter's record. People try to do it with Tyson too, it doesn't really wash. I don't know if you listened to the video but Dwyer explains it well.

Dwyer is now a member of these forums as of recently so hopefully he will chime in here too

Has he posted yet?

[joesaiditstrue]

What legacy? He's 30 years old and has never been the man to beat in a weight class. He still needs to put in like 3-4 more years of work to be considered a HOF'er. His fights with Pacquiao and Marquez showed he's good enough to fight close fights with ATG's, but can he really beat them?

he's IMO (and a lot of others) the P4P #3 fighter in the world, and could be argued #2 due to Ward's inactivity.

"30 years old" "never been the man to beat in a weight class" are contrived talking points that aren't important if you're RATING him against his peers.

Bradley will retire a HOF, I have no doubt about that, and I'm sure most agree with me. His resume is strong.