According to Bhop, Ruslan is bad for boxing because....

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  • MrRolltide91
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    #121
    smh b hop never said this

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    • boliodogs
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      #122
      Hopkins is a great fighter and I admire his incredible career. He is an all time great. What he is saying is just ****** and wrong. The Russian is great for boxing. He is not some crude slugger with no talent. He is a world champion now and he fought on even terms with Bradley who is one weight class heavier than him and one of the best boxers in the world. Who in their right mind wouldn't rather watch Ruslan fight than watch Hopkins fight these days? Ruslan brings action and excitement every minute of every round. Hopkins usually lands about ten punches a round and keeps his opponent from landing much by mauling, clinching and wrestling the rest of the round. Hopkin's fights are sometimes almost painful to watch. Yes he usually wins but so what? There was a time for many years when Hopkins really came to fight and he knocked guys out or beat the hell out of them. Hopkins was exciting to watch in those days just like the Russian is today. If the Russian can use his style to defeat skilled defensive boxers what's wrong with that and what's not to like?

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      • ИATAS
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        #123
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        Hopkins is a great fighter and I admire his incredible career. He is an all time great. What he is saying is just ****** and wrong. The Russian is great for boxing. He is not some crude slugger with no talent. He is a world champion now and he fought on even terms with Bradley who is one weight class heavier than him and one of the best boxers in the world. Who in their right mind wouldn't rather watch Ruslan fight than watch Hopkins fight these days? Ruslan brings action and excitement every minute of every round. Hopkins usually lands about ten punches a round and keeps his opponent from landing much by mauling, clinching and wrestling the rest of the round. Hopkin's fights are sometimes almost painful to watch. Yes he usually wins but so what? There was a time for many years when Hopkins really came to fight and he knocked guys out or beat the hell out of them. Hopkins was exciting to watch in those days just like the Russian is today. If the Russian can use his style to defeat skilled defensive boxers what's wrong with that and what's not to like?
        You're wasting your time as Hopkins never said Ruslan, or anyone else, is bad for boxing. This thread is a fabrication by the thread starter. Hopkins simply said "slick" fighters dont get support like they used to. He never mentioned Ruslans name or said offensive fighters are bad for the sport.

        Closest thing he said is that he tells, tries to tell, young kids to fight smart rather than be brawlers as it's better for the longevity of their careers.

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        • joe strong
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          #124
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          Its the reason why many boxing fans find slick black defensive fighters boring or don't understand the art of boxing.

          Understanding or appreciating and actually finding certain styles entertaining are 2 totally different things. I fully understand and can appreciate the style of a slickster such as Bhop or Floyd. I found Hopkins performance against Pavlik very entertaining. It was a true boxing clinic. I also found both his fights with pascal very entertaining as well. Truth is he's also been in quite a few stinkers. I can say the same for Floyd and Ward as well as several other technical boxers as well.

          Now just because certain fans aren't entertained by actionless fighting doesn't mean they don't understand what's going it. It just means that when tuning in to see a fight they expect to see an actual fight. Not a display of let's see who can make who miss more without trying to hurt or take your opponent out.

          So at the end of the day there's no wonder why many boxing fans (mainly causals) prefer the style of say Ruslan or a Pacquiao to that of a defensive slickster. When you're watching fighters who are willing to put it all on line, take one in order to get theirs in, and who's main objective is to obliterate their opponent, there's no wonder why they get more praise than someone who prefers to play it safe and focus on merely playing tag you're it with their opponent with the objective of scoring a bland safe points victory. Its like watching 2 guys play the violin vs watching an action packed concert.
          mike Tyson said this about the klitschkos. he said they fight, they overcome, they conquer,I just entertained people... people want to see action & violence. if you can guarantee on a Saturday night that someone was going to get killed. you would have an absolute sellout. now if you told them it was going to be an hour long waltz how many people will show up?

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          • Vasyl’s dad
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            #125
            Originally posted by ИATAS
            You're wasting your time as Hopkins never said Ruslan, or anyone else, is bad for boxing. This thread is a fabrication by the thread starter. Hopkins simply said "slick" fighters dont get support like they used to. He never mentioned Ruslans name or said offensive fighters are bad for the sport.

            Closest thing he said is that he tells, tries to tell, young kids to fight smart rather than be brawlers as it's better for the longevity of their careers.
            and even then, that statement in itself, is ****** and wrong.

            Guys who were considered brawlers who had long careers,

            Antonio Margarito 17 years
            Arturo Gatti 16 years
            Ricardo Mayorga 18 years
            Julio Cesar Chavez 22 years

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            • JDezi4
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              #126
              Not true, he's actually the perfect fighter...

              He's exciting enough to gain a following, than when the right guy comes along to beat his ass with actual boxing skill, we have a new star on the rise

              Obviously the guy can't be Rigondeaux, he has to have some power and be willing to **** when the time comes

              That's the problem with fighters today, they're either skilled, but feather fisted and unexciting... Or they're completely skill-less brawlers

              Boy I hope Keith Thurman is the real deal

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              • mathed
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                #127
                Originally posted by PBP
                I don't think that's what he meant. He was more so criticizing media and fans for trying to force guys like Crawford to fight like Ruslan or they will be blackballed.
                Right, this is what I took him as saying too. The media pressure forces guys to fight ******ly for the sake of gaining fans as opposed to utilizing their own skillset.

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