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  • #91
    Looking at the gif of Garcia knocking out Khan is crazy. Same punch he wrecked Lucas' eye with. Not a lucky punch at all, give Garcia his props he is good, and would beat Khan again.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by F!x View Post
      It's widely known that before the Prescott fight Khan was struggling badly with making weight at 135. He was simply very badly weight-drained. He made a huge mistake by picking an extremely poor new trainer who not only suggested Prescott as an opponent, but also gave Khan a game plan which involved rushing in on Prescott, trying to KO him early. It was a game plan which would probably get almost any elite fighter in serious trouble against a power puncher like Prescott who is always very dangerous early on in fights. Needless to say, that trainer only trained Khan for the one fight. His game plan was essentially getting a weight-drained fighter to run at a proven power puncher (Prescott at the time had a 94% KO ratio in 19 fights).

      Against Garcia, Khan went through one of his worst camps ever, largely due to the faults of the core training team. He had just split ways with Alex Ariza, his long time strength and conditioning coach. Instantly, this was a pretty significant alteration to the team. What made things much worse was that Freddie Roach was busy training Pacquiao in the Philippines for the Bradley fight so Khan didn't even have his main trainer consistently in the camp. Footage of Khan sparring during this camp just served to highlight how poor training was going, Khan was basically trying to brawl with a middleweight, technique was virtually non-existent, and Freddie Roach wasn't even in the same country at the time.

      Peterson of course has always been a non-consideration. Not only did Khan have to deal with a crooked referee and bent judges, essentially getting robbed by points, but we later found out that Peterson had been using PEDs for that fight, he'd been cheating all along.
      your nationalistic pride is commendable, but this is pure drivel, and everyone who read this is now dumber for having done so

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      • #93
        Originally posted by reflex+speed=me View Post
        the real amir khan has:
        1) NO chin whatsoever
        2) VERY VERY LOW ring IQ
        3) cant read & adjust in the ring to his opponent
        4) VERY leaky defense with holes
        5) is easy to time & catch im combination
        this is the lowdown

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Ghazan View Post
          you're correct..the loss to prescott can be explained as he was still in the learning process..just like pacman's 2 early losses

          the loss to Lamont Peterson was a robbery the ref favoured peterson....haters must be blind not to see it

          the loss to Garcia..was foolishness on Amir's part...he dominated the first 2 round and got ****y and Garcia caught him with a LUCKY SHOT..

          im 100% sure Khan would beat Garcia in the rematch...Khan is a much more skilled boxer than Garcia..and Virgil must have improved his defence by then.


          Much respect for this thorough and informative article
          Thanks man, glad you enjoyed the article and I agree Khan's losses can be compared to Pacquiao's early losses. Pacquiao was weight-drained in his first loss, he got KO'd in 3 rounds against a fighter with 11 wins, 4 losses and 5 draws. That fighter, Torrecampo, retired in 1997 and returned in 2011 for one fight. He has a 27% KO ratio to date. At the time he fought Pacquiao he had KOd 7 people in 20 fights. A difference there is that Torrecampo wasn't a known power puncher like Prescott was, but it just goes to show how weight-draining can immensely reduce punch resistance.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by L3TH4L View Post
            For the sake of humor, I'm going to assume that you're referring to Amir Khan the actor.

            .........

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Boxing Bob View Post
              your nationalistic pride is commendable, but this is pure drivel, and everyone who read this is now dumber for having done so
              No, it's entirely factual. An accurate account of events as they unfolded around those particular fights. I'd advise reading through again and paying closer attention. If people want to claim it's just excuses, that's fine (and completely predictable). But those events did happen as I've described, they are facts, so you can reach your own conclusion of how they could have prevented Khan performing to anywhere near his true capability.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by F!x View Post
                No, it's entirely factual. An accurate account of events as they unfolded around those particular fights. I'd advise reading through again and paying closer attention. If people want to claim it's just excuses, that's fine (and completely predictable). But those events did happen as I've described, they are facts, so you can reach your own conclusion of how they could have prevented Khan performing to anywhere near his true capability.
                couldn't you actually do this with every fighter? Come up with real excuses for every loss? Canelo only lost because Floyd made him sweat off 2 more lbs, Mattysse only lost because Garcia closed his eye, Hatton only lost because the ref wouldn't let him hold and hit on the inside, etc. See what I mean. With Khans poor defense and bad chin, it's hard to imagine him beating very many world class fighters, excuses or not

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Boxing Bob View Post
                  couldn't you actually do this with every fighter? Come up with real excuses for every loss? Canelo only lost because Floyd made him sweat off 2 more lbs, Mattysse only lost because Garcia closed his eye, Hatton only lost because the ref wouldn't let him hold and hit on the inside, etc. See what I mean. With Khans poor defense and bad chin, it's hard to imagine him beating very many world class fighters, excuses or not
                  I agree, it could account for some other fighter's losses too. With the Khan situation it was issues with weight or trainers/team - external events in the lead up to the fight. With the examples you gave, bar Canelo, the incidents in question happened during the fight.

                  My point is that the pre-fight period, the training, the camp, making weight, is crucial and can effect how the fight plays out, and it's eventual outcome. These issues were very prominent in Khan's two losses to Prescott (severe weight-draining, new, incompetent trainer) and Garcia (extremely poor and ineffective training camp). Had those issues not been present the outcomes of both those fights would have most probably been very different in my opinion.

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                  • #99
                    Garcia beat him fair and square....

                    Made him do the stanky leg....

                    Check my sig he did the booty dew...

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                    • lol he was defeated vs Diaz but Diaz was robbed, too bad he has no chin cause he has great speed n combos, hes been looking like crap with Hunter


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