Ward refuses to participate in VADA testing

[Hurtin-Bombs]

That's why I believe that any fighter contracted to a TV network should have a central contract with that network. The network should decide the purse, the stipulations and the best opponents. This in place of a much needed governing body would sort out many of the problems.

The networks have absolutely no say in what commissions or outside testing agencies do though. That needs to be up to the fighter's management. Networks already have enough to deal with.

You think HBO is really going to give a hoot about implementing drug testing when it has game of thrones coming up?

[apokalips]

I like Ward but anybody that refuses drug testing is immediately shady to me. There is NO reason to ever refuse drug testing of any type in any sport! All athletes have a responsibility and onus on them to prove they are clean.

Drug testing is not about getting one up on your opponent in mind games or anything it is something that in all sports is a NECESSITY and all fighters should WANT to take the strictest form of testing necessary to ensure a clean fight and make sure that fights are safe as possible.

[SplitSecond]

im already aware of this info which is why i'm speaking on it through knowledge.

if you aren't aware maybe you should read up on it and get familiar before trying to talk about it.

right....

anyway, i've searched and got nothin, now do us the favor please

or just keep avoiding it, up to you

[MisterHardtop]

The networks have absolutely no say in what commissions or outside testing agencies do though. That needs to be up to the fighter's management. Networks already have enough to deal with.

You think HBO is really going to give a hoot about implementing drug testing when it has game of thrones coming up?

HBO is a giant network with multiple departments, it's boxing department is already heavily involved in match making and promoting fighters. They would easily be involved in dissing out contracts. It is a long and difficult road but it could lead to some level of continuity within the sport.

[Hurtin-Bombs]

HBO is a giant network with multiple departments, it's boxing department is already heavily involved in match making and promoting fighters. They would easily be involved in dissing out contracts. It is a long and difficult road but it could lead to some level of continuity within the sport.

Sure they are, promoting and creating a production value for a fight is not the same as getting involved with a fighter's contract with a promoter.

why should it be HBO's problem when the fighter Edwin doesn't have a long standing contract with HBO? Its him that is wanting the outside testing, not the HBO fighter with the long contract

[MisterHardtop]

Sure they are, promoting and creating a production value for a fight is not the same as getting involved with a fighter's contract with a promoter.

why should it be HBO's problem when the fighter Edwin doesn't have a long standing contract with HBO? Its him that is wanting the outside testing, not the HBO fighter with the long contract

That's exactly the reason HBO should have a central contract system, with either the promoters of specific fighters or the fighters themselves. It takes away any ridiculous demands and last minutes insertions. Central contracts in other sports have vastly improved them and the same can happen with boxing.

Imagine central contracts were in place 3 years ago, we may well have seen a Manny Pacquio v Floyd Mayweather trilogy by now.

[Hurtin-Bombs]

That's exactly the reason HBO should have a central contract system, with either the promoters of specific fighters or the fighters themselves. It takes away any ridiculous demands and last minutes insertions. Central contracts in other sports have vastly improved them and the same can happen with boxing.

Imagine central contracts were in place 3 years ago, we may well have seen a Manny Pacquio v Floyd Mayweather trilogy by now.

Central contract systems would NEVERR happen in a sport as fragmented as boxing.

that would defeat the entire purpose of managers and promoters in terms of being able to negotiate things

[MisterHardtop]

Central contract systems would NEVERR happen in a sport as fragmented as boxing.

that would defeat the entire purpose of managers and promoters in terms of being able to negotiate things

Managers no, but promoters may go the way of the Dodo, but would anyone mind when they so often hinder great fights.

Yes the sport is fragmented and it's because it lacks any single governing body, football has FIFA, cricket has the ICC and so on. Since boxing has none of those, tv networks should take the reins, in the long run, it would be far better for them financially.

But I know all of this is a long shot and far from reality, but in my original post, I was simply stating having such a system would decrease and probably completely eliminate situations such as Ward and VADA.

It is just my opinion, I do not expect you to agree with it.

[Hurtin-Bombs]

Managers no, but promoters may go the way of the Dodo, but would anyone mind when they so often hinder great fights.

Yes the sport is fragmented and it's because it lacks any single governing body, football has FIFA, cricket has the ICC and so on. Since boxing has none of those, tv networks should take the reins, in the long run, it would be far better for them financially.

But I know all of this is a long shot and far from reality, but in my original post, I was simply stating having such a system would decrease and probably completely eliminate situations such as Ward and VADA.

It is just my opinion, I do not expect you to agree with it.

It's ambitious if anything.

But unfortunately there is no room for that sort of ambition in this sport. That'd be like asking to go back to original weight classes haha

[MisterHardtop]

It's ambitious if anything.

But unfortunately there is no room for that sort of ambition in this sport. That'd be like asking to go back to original weight classes haha

I actually believe TV networks and central contracts is very doable, the financial incentives are HUGE, the benefits of cutting out the middle man even bigger.

Oh and I may be in the minority but I like how many weight classes we have, it allows for people of almost any size to take part, unlike boxing's much uglier cousin.