Why doesn't Pac get the same credit for the Cotto win as Floyd's win over Canelo?

[MurkaMan]

You have zero proof....

There is just as much proof as Floyd juicing....zero

In fact Floyd shows more signs, mood swings, random outbursts of anger....balding, puffy ******* etc...

I bet you'll mention Pac's head..but check my avatar. That's Pacquiao aged 17, he's always had a huge head.

Pac's head is tiny in that Picture. His head has gotten way bigger. And Floyd hasnt gone bald, he just shaves it. We saw that when he got out of jail and had an afro. With that being said, Pac fought a damaged Cotto who had gotten the crap beat out of him by Margarita if Im not mistaken. I give Pac credit for Cotto STILL. And I give Floyd NO credit for Cotto. But Canelo at the time Floyd fought him was much more prime and dangerous. Also more power, speed etc. Cotto is still somewhat credible at the time Pac fought him. Just not as much as Canelo.

[junior gong]

Both were at catchweights, one against a natural career light welterweight/welterweight and the other against a natural junior middleweight that was at a catchweight...

Cotto was a proven fighter, experienced and skilled.

Canelo was a young inexperienced, good fighter but he was like an apprentice learning on the job, he only had a few fights against legit competition...

Yet Floyd is getting worshipped for a catchweight against an unproven prospect, and Manny gets hell for beating the breaks off of the guy who gave Mayweather in his words...''my toughest fight''



It just goes to show how much of a hypejob Mayweather is, don't get me wrong he is skilled and fast and a great fighter....but talks of the GOAT are absolutely preposterous.

He does. The only people that dont are gay ass, bumsniffing floydiots.

[brick wall]

pac got lots of credit for that win but also got discredited a lot by fanboys and haters.

so don't take the fanboys seriously...they have tons of opinions but it's mostly garbage.

[flint]

maybe its because pacquiao was on steroids

[True Alpha Male]

Pac's head is tiny in that Picture. His head has gotten way bigger. And Floyd hasnt gone bald, he just shaves it. We saw that when he got out of jail and had an afro. With that being said, Pac fought a damaged Cotto who had gotten the crap beat out of him by Margarita if Im not mistaken. I give Pac credit for Cotto STILL. And I give Floyd NO credit for Cotto. But Canelo at the time Floyd fought him was much more prime and dangerous. Also more power, speed etc. Cotto is still somewhat credible at the time Pac fought him. Just not as much as Canelo.

Pac's head in that pic is huge for someone weighing like 106lbs the dude has a damn basketball head.

[noStylez]

Pac got a lot of credit pre fight, after demolishing cotto that is when they discredit the win.

[MurkaMan]

Pac's head in that pic is huge for someone weighing like 106lbs the dude has a damn basketball head.

If you think its big in that pic, thats your opinion. But the point I was making is that its WAAAY bigger now than it was in that pic. And btw, Im not saying he was on roids. I was just countering your comment.

[richardt]

I've seen many guys whose heads seem to grow 30% bigger when they are 35 than when they were younger. But they say HGH can make a head grow bigger. But until or unless someone shows the lab results indicating a positive, I will not classify Floyd, Pac, or JMM as having used PED's.

[ADP02]

1. He does get credit.
2. Canelo was undefeated and had just come off the biggest win of his career, becoming Ring champ at 154 against a guy many accused him of ducking, Austin Trout.
3. Cotto had just come off seemingly struggling to beat Clottey clearly in a fight many thought Cotto lost and despite having "home town" advantage, he barely got the decision in an SD. Which usually screams: He really didn't win, but we still gave it to him. Cotto was arguably 1-2 coming in to the Pacquiao fight.
4. Cotto never happily agreed to 145, he did it because Arum was throwing him under the bus, threatening to strip him if he does not fight Pacquiao at 145.
5. Canelo offered a 150 catchweight in 2012, and for the fight they met half way at 152.

You are showing some bias here.

For one, Canelo was NEVER happy about the CW but you only said that Cotto wasn't. Even in his interview Canelo said "The hardest part about my training was trying to make weight". On the other-hand, Cotto was laughing it off and saying that he would be too strong for Manny and that it was only a 1lb difference compared to his previous fight.

At the time, Canelo only had 1 questionable good win under his belt. Even then, that fight with Trout was close and it put a huge spot-light on the flaws that Canelo had. Cotto on the other hand had some good wins and his only loss was to a more than likely cheating Margarito.

Canelo didn't have the experience that Cotto had at the time. Even Showtime brought that up. I brought that up. Others brought that up. Floyd brought that up!

[ADP02]

maybe its because pacquiao was on steroids

Maybe Floyd is still injecting his hands with drugs, as he admitted, just so he can hit his opponents face harder than possible without the drugs .... but I'm sure you are fine with that because it's Floyd, right?