Why doesn't Pac get the same credit for the Cotto win as Floyd's win over Canelo?

[Outworn]

If legitimate threads such as this warrant a ban than I guess you have to be a damn pansy to stay unbanned. It's like walking on eggshells around here.

Word... True Alpha Male.

[dc3383]

This thread is very Hectarish

[dynomyte1444]

Like some one else had stated early. Having a cloud over your head that you might have been juicing during that time is very bad for the legacy of that fight.

there is an article from cotto not talking about his fight which i respected as a no excuse kind of guy but saying he should take the test for future fights

[-Kev-]

1. He does get credit.
2. Canelo was undefeated and had just come off the biggest win of his career, becoming Ring champ at 154 against a guy many accused him of ducking, Austin Trout.
3. Cotto had just come off seemingly struggling to beat Clottey clearly in a fight many thought Cotto lost and despite having "home town" advantage, he barely got the decision in an SD. Which usually screams: He really didn't win, but we still gave it to him. Cotto was arguably 1-2 coming in to the Pacquiao fight.
4. Cotto never happily agreed to 145, he did it because Arum was throwing him under the bus, threatening to strip him if he does not fight Pacquiao at 145.
5. Canelo offered a 150 catchweight in 2012, and for the fight they met half way at 152.

[True Alpha Male]

Are ypu serious! I even gave pac credit for that victory and i truly believe he was juiced to the gills at this point of his career.

You have zero proof....

There is just as much proof as Floyd juicing....zero

In fact Floyd shows more signs, mood swings, random outbursts of anger....balding, puffy ******* etc...

I bet you'll mention Pac's head..but check my avatar. That's Pacquiao aged 17, he's always had a huge head.

[Fetta]

You have zero proof....

There is just as much proof as Floyd juicing....zero

In fact Floyd shows more signs, mood swings, random outbursts of anger....balding, puffy ******* etc...

I bet you'll mention Pac's head..but check my avatar. That's Pacquiao aged 17, he's always had a huge head.

The "i truly believe" must of flew over your head. I know no proof just like JMM.

[True Alpha Male]

Yup, Cotto gave Mayweather the most competive fight of recent years, avenged his Margarito loss with a KO (which Manny himself didn't KO Marg), lost in a competitve fight to Trout and is back looking good.

It's a highly underestimated win for Manny, and I believe Manny's stock is about to rise, because he beat Bradley and is being underrated of late.

Word...

The king will be back with a vengeance....

Floyd will not end his career with a Pac fight....

Pac will put a whipping on all these overrated chumps and Floyd will be petrified that Pac will be confirmed as natural as he will do VADA for the rest of his fights...

[Hurtin-Bombs]

Both got a lot of credit.

[therealpugilist]

PAC gets credit for the win, it's probably his third best win...if you are asking is the win better than Floyd over Alvarez it is not for several simple reasons

Timing...Miguel was coming off a lose by stoppage and a close hard fought win....psychologically he was not quite at his best

The stakes...they fought for a meaningless trinket whereas Mayweather beat Alvarez for the lineal title....at the time Margarito was the number one guy and roach didn't want PAC to get near Mosley...the win showed he was a contender at welter Floyd showed he was the champ at 154

Both good wins for PAC and money

[True Alpha Male]

The "i truly believe" must of flew over your head. I know no proof just like JMM.

JMM worked with a chemist who is on record boasting about making undetectable PEDs and there's a damn video of him showcasing how easy it is to get away with juicing....

If that isn't a red flag then I don't know what it.