Breakdown of Lomachenko's flaws (with gifs)

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  • Adamjr91
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    #31
    There was me thinking this was about his gifts and deficiencies LOL. Way too harsh.

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    • King_
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      #32
      Originally posted by ImStillHere
      Tougher opponent? So Ramirez is better than a former world champion in Ricardo Cordoba because it suits your Lomanchenko agenda? **** off
      Come on now, former world champion? He fought for a vacant title and lost every time he's stepped up.

      Lets credit Quillin for beating Winky Wright while we're at it

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        #33
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        He clearly let Ramirez just hit him. You're saying it like he couldn't avoid it, he didn't even try because he wanted him to do it
        Which is what Lara does on the inside and people hate on him for it. Read closer next time and you might understand what I'm saying

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        • King_
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          #34
          Originally posted by ImStillHere
          Do it then! I dare you to!

          And that was Canelo not Jose Ramirez.

          Look people are being very critical but only because some are making him out to be a God.

          There are 3 type of people on this forum.

          Type 1: Grossly overhype anyone who gets a good win

          Type 2: As a reaction to the hype, they hate on said fighter, usually because the fighter has done little to deserve praise and more accomplished fighters are regularly abused.

          Type 3: Just want to watch some boxing, and then articulate our observations in fights to other well balanced people.

          Unfortunately NSB is population in about 95% Type 1 and 2

          Rant over!
          You're being silly as hell. LOL. Dude he fought a guy who's never been stopped with a 25-3 record in his FIRST professional fight. OKAY he had some defensive flaws, sure..... Like I said Rigo got dropped before and that didn't stop him from getting to the top, did it?

          Funny you like talking bout hype and then you say.... that was "Canelo" as if Canelo isn't all hype. Dude had 35 fights against no one and gets awarded a vacant title and only has one world-class fighter win in Trout before getting his chance with Floyd. Yet a guy fighting a ranked fighter in his first career fight is all hype to you, okay man.

          Talk about agendas....

          Canelo is the definition of a carefully planned career with gift baskets being handed to him his whole career, yet you wanna hate on a guy with one fight.

          Defensive flaws can be fixed, the natural talent and skills you see with Loma cant be thought in the gym
          Last edited by King_; 10-13-2013, 07:04 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by King-
            Come on now, former world champion? He fought for a vacant title and lost every time he's stepped up.

            Lets credit Quillin for beating Winky Wright while we're at it
            An old Winky is a better win than Jose"no one gives a ***" Ramirez

            And Cordoba was on a much higher level than Ramirez ever was

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              #36
              Originally posted by ImStillHere
              An old Winky is a better win than Jose"no one gives a ***" Ramirez

              And Cordoba was on a much higher level than Ramirez ever was
              That's not the point man. What don't you understand that this was his first offical pro fight? A win over Jose" no one gives a ***" Ramirez in first fight is 100000000000000005x times better then an old Winky Wright. You serious? Do you think Wlad should voluntarily defend against Holyfield too?

              So Canelo can get hype after fighting 35 truck drivers and handymen, but Lomachenko can't get hype after fighting a ranked fighter in his first fight?

              Clearly you're the one with the agenda, not me

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                #37
                Originally posted by King-
                You're being silly as hell. LOL. Dude he fought a guy who's never been stopped with a 25-3 record in his FIRST professional fight. OKAY he had some defensive flaws, sure..... Like I said Rigo got dropped before and that didn't stop him from getting to the top, did it?

                Funny you like talking bout hype and then you say.... that was "Canelo" as if Canelo isn't all hype. Dude had 35 fights against no one and gets awarded a vacant title and only has one world-class fighter win in Trout before getting his chance with Floyd. Yet a guy fighting a ranked fighter in his first career fight is all hype to you, okay man.

                Talk about agendas....
                Why are you bringing up Rigo being dropped? It was from balance anyway.

                And are you seriously gonna act like Canelo hasn't come on leaps and bounds from the kid we used to shove in a corner with Chavez Jr as hypejobs?

                Canelo was gifted a title yes, and i more than most harbored hate for him considering Lara is one of my favorites and was cheated out of a title shot countless times.

                But if you watch Canelo and cant see he's at the highest level of the sport then your fooling yourself.

                And what sir is this agenda your implying?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ImStillHere
                  There are 3 type of people on this forum.

                  Type 1: Grossly overhype anyone who gets a good win

                  Type 2: As a reaction to the hype, they hate on said fighter, usually because the fighter has done little to deserve praise and more accomplished fighters are regularly abused.

                  Type 3: Just want to watch some boxing, and then articulate our observations in fights to other well balanced people.

                  Unfortunately NSB is population in about 95% Type 1 and 2

                  Rant over!
                  Spot on, mate

                  I have to say I was impressed. I still don't think he's ready for Salido but I thought last night was a crazy move too.

                  I'd give him a couple more tough 'training' fights because if (and it's a big IF) he beats Saildo there's nowhere else for him to go. Only top level fights. And the top fighters will expose any flaws that get ironed out from experience. pro experience.

                  Of course, if he does beat Salido convincingly then perhaps he is ready.

                  Either way, welcome to the pro game, Vasyl.

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                    #39
                    Is this serious? You're asking him to be perfect or something LOL? You're giving him way too much credit. Pac has a lot of flaws is one an ATG. The fact that this kid fought a guy with 25 wins on his pro debut and demolished him shows me he is something special.

                    LOL at showing gifs of him missing punches and counting that as a flaw.

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                    • King_
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ImStillHere
                      Why are you bringing up Rigo being dropped? It was from balance anyway.

                      And are you seriously gonna act like Canelo hasn't come on leaps and bounds from the kid we used to shove in a corner with Chavez Jr as hypejobs?

                      Canelo was gifted a title yes, and i more than most harbored hate for him considering Lara is one of my favorites and was cheated out of a title shot countless times.

                      But if you watch Canelo and cant see he's at the highest level of the sport then your fooling yourself.

                      And what sir is this agenda your implying?

                      And I feel that if you watch Lomachenko, 2x gold medalist, drop a guy twice and KO in 4 rounds by a body shot, a guy who's never been stopped before........ in his first pro fight, and think he deserves even just a little bit of hype, then I think you're fooling yourself.

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