Breakdown of Lomachenko's flaws (with gifs)

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  • lfc19titles
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    #101
    I agree with some but the high defensive guard is just his defensive styles, we know boxing there are a few, everyone of them has a benefit and also some cons, I think it is harsh to pick on that

    the lunch accuracy bit also, the other dude showed good head movement, when a boxer does that, you will miss more, look at wlad vs haye for example, great head movement by haye made wlad miss loads

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    • Light_Speed
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      #102
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Glad I am not the only one who wasn't overly impressed with him.

      Defense consists of an earmuff guard with a three way twist, he did the same thing all night.

      No real snap on his shots, hes not a crisp puncher in my eyes.

      People go on he won medals and a Val Barker trophy all day long but I am not seeing what I'd expect really from a guy with such experience and amateur credentials.

      His defense and flawed punching technique is similar to Amir Khans.

      Hes a very good prospect but hes far from the finished article and people need to drop this Rigondeaux superfight talk because Rigo would eat him alive. Let him mature and come into his own. The worst thing you can do is push him to fast.
      I think he does have snap on his shots when he plants his feet, but when he punches on the move it's mostly pitty pat. But I agree that he's very similar to Khan in that he relies on his foot movement with a stationary upper body, for the most part.

      Originally posted by sicko
      only his first Pro Fight though I think he will get better with every fight

      Can't leave that body open like that against Rigondeaux though who is a VICIOUS body puncher and can strike with those body punches quickly

      I don't even know why Arum is already talking about matching him up with Rigondeaux that is ******...I think he will destroy Salido though!
      Can't leave your body open like that against Salido either, and Salido loves to throw the right hook to the body and then switch to the head when you expect a bodyshot.

      Originally posted by sparkman0811
      This guy sort of reminded me of Amir Khan, as both are kind of sloppy. However, I understand it was his first fight and was in with an experienced fighter. He got the knockout, though. All I will say is he could be worst, like the Chinese dude.
      Oh yeah he looks MUCH better than Shiming.

      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Lol c'mon u can nit pick at Floyd's "mistakes" against Canelo and it would look the same
      I don't think so, especially not with footage from only 3 rounds.

      Originally posted by RichCCFC
      Does Pacquiao have a lot of upper body movement then?
      Yes he does.

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        #103
        Al of the above being said, I hope Arum carefully and truthfully builds Loma's career as a pro fighter.

        I don't see a bright future for Lomachenko if Arum over-hypes and over-protects him. Loma needs to stay cool and progress in a sound manner. It would be a pity to see a "green" and over-confident Loma being dropped cold like Abner Mares, for instance...

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        • HeroBando
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          #104
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          Al of the above being said, I hope Arum carefully and truthfully builds Loma's career as a pro fighter.

          I don't see a bright future for Lomachenko if Arum over-hypes and over-protects him. Loma needs to stay cool and progress in a sound manner. It would be a pity to see a "green" and over-confident Loma being dropped cold like Abner Mares, for instance...
          Overprotection is obviously not gonna be a problem. If he beats Salido, he'll have earned any hype that Arum can produce

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            #105
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Overprotection is obviously not gonna be a problem. If he beats Salido, he'll have earned any hype that Arum can produce
            Loma will beat Salido for sure... The problem is that we'll never know if it was "for real"...
            (I don't think that Arum signed Loma just to risk his future pro career in the second fight...)

            My guess is that Arum is actually after the "Eastern markets" (China, Russia...)
            This might significantly hurt the boxing business in the U.S -- business which is slow already...

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              #106
              Rigo would give this guy a real schooling.

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                #107
                Originally posted by HUGH JASS
                Rigo would give this guy a real schooling.
                Rigo only fights at jr. featherweight.
                If Arum wants the fight then Loma has to go South -- which I doubt.

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                • steven_z
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Light_Speed
                  This is for all the people who were surprised than me and other members were not impressed with Lomachenko's pro debut. Here's a gif breakdown of his flaws :

                  Stationary upper body, easy to hit with bodyshots, particularly the right hook to the body which Ramirez landed almost everytime :



                  Notice he threw the uppercut from too far away and then covered up as he got countered with a combination. Here he makes the same mistake again :




                  Doesn't move his head after he's done throwing and gets caught :



                  Another example :

                  WOW! You'd better stick with you actual job - bus driving. Will save you some embarassment. Boxing analysis is not for you.

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                  • D-MiZe
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                    #109
                    This is utterly ******...

                    Basing a fighter on one fight against an opponent that didn't trouble him in the slightest. Lets wait until Loma has to face adversity, then we'll see what he's made of.

                    Where is all this hype coming from anyway? Rigo didn't turn over with this much...

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by D-MiZe
                      This is utterly ******...

                      Basing a fighter on one fight against an opponent that didn't trouble him in the slightest. Lets wait until Loma has to face adversity, then we'll see what he's made of.

                      Where is all this hype coming from anyway? Rigo didn't turn over with this much...
                      Please watch the WSB Loma's fight with Albert Selimov...
                      This Ramirez was sooo feather-fisted and sooo open and defenseless...
                      I label this fight only as a dress rehearsal for Loma...

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