Is Wladimir on the slide/shot?

[damuttz112]

It's a fair point, against Peter I & Brewster I he looked gassed as hell. If you can take his shots for awhile and keep pressuring him, he cracks.

[Weebler I]

Its harsh as hes at the end of his career, hes aging and its inevitable but he is not as good as I thought he was. He had no answers but to grab & lean.

He didn't look for any other answers.

The clinching was unnecessary. Povetkin was no threat at all, in any point of the fight.

Not sure I agree, he was dangerous in the first few rounds and he did connect on Wlad, he was marked up post-fight.

[Black Barty]

lol talk about an overreaction.

Look, apart from Tyson Fury, who has the size and inside game capable of challenging Wlad, and Pulev who has a nice quick jab and is also big, The other HW's are still nowhere near his level.

Just look at Povetkin, he had no answer to getting held and clinched up. You can blame that on Wlad, but at some point Povetkin had to adjust. Where were the uppercuts? where were the hooks to the body? Everytime he got clinched up he waited for the referee to separate them with doing any damage.

I agree with you that Wlad is not shot, but what's this thing about Fury's 'inside fighting'? I saw it in other threads as well, and was baffled by it. Inside or outside, Fury is garbage imo. He has size and OK (though not great) power but very little else.

[Russian Crushin]

He did look terrible but not that terrible

[billeau2]

I agree with you that Wlad is not shot, but what's this thing about Fury's 'inside fighting'? I saw it in other threads as well, and was baffled by it. Inside or outside, Fury is garbage imo. He has size and OK (though not great) power but very little else.

Fury is still garbage but he is young and how good is Wlad? Lets be honest about Sam Peter, a guy who he went tooth and nail with. Peter was pretty much garbage at that time.

The lack of movement is imo what discerns the quality of the division today. Very few of these guys can move, if they could they would avoid Wlad's jab and fight inside. Thats what skills are for. A guy like James Toney could probably do that tomorrow. Fury is not that good but could move enough to do this. So could Chisora or Haye. Wlad has not fought anyone who can move.

Look at the difference between Vitali and Wlad's fight with Peter for proof. Vitali moves a lot better.

[FrankieBruno]

That is why Wladimir has looked a monster; his opposition. Its easy to look like your stamina is amazing when opponents aren't making you miss or giving you anything to think about.

Povetkin made Wlad work and was landing his own shots - Wladimir was blowing hard after 3 and his shots had very little on.

Wladimir does not like angles. He likes guys who stand in front of him, upright & let him jab them in the face all night.

Sorry but nothing is changing my mind that Wladimir is a product of a weak era. Not saying he isn't a damn good HW but hes being made to look superhuman almost because of how poor these guys of today are.

Very true

I'm still wondering why these boxers keep trying the same tried gameplan over and over again.

Wlad is beatable it'll take someone who can box from mid range and come from angles and go for his body.

Haye wasted his opportunity, he had all the tools, but came with the wrong game plan and gave Wlad way to much respect.

I'm not sure who else could cause Wlad problems, Rakhim maybe, Haye in a rematch, I know u wont agree but possibly Fury, just simply because he stands a punchers chance and wont show Wlad any respect.

Chisora fights in straight lines, and he wont be able to get hos body shots off without being clinched, he'll spend the entire fight trying to get up close. The jab will eventually break him down

Pulev may stand a chance

Wilder is a unknown entity and he respects Wlad to much, and also hasn't been with anyone noteworthy, I don't think he even wants it

[FrankieBruno]

One thing Pov did right was come for Wlads neck, he put on pressure early, where as Haye spent the first 3 rounds trying to figure out Wlad

You could see genuine panic in Wlad from round 1, thus he started clinching and leaning more so than ever

He doesn't like pressure, he needs his opponents to let him breathe and stay far away.

Boxers need a Tyson like attitude, soon as the bell rings attack, first 5 rounds are ur best chance to floor him

[Dwyer]

I think its quite evident Wladimir is slipping with age, but that does not mean there's a smaller gap in competition, I can see him going strong for 5 more years if he is allowed to clinch as seen in a few nights ago.

[iNorton]

Wlad needs coach, someone to substitude Steward in his team... but how can you sustitute Steward?

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

I agree with you that Wlad is not shot, but what's this thing about Fury's 'inside fighting'? I saw it in other threads as well, and was baffled by it. Inside or outside, Fury is garbage imo. He has size and OK (though not great) power but very little else.

Fury's inside game is a myth. He stuck his head to Chisora's one and kept throwing clumsy uppercuts and hooks.

Fury is still a dangerous fight for W.K because Fury can fight tall. The first clean one-two Wlad lands would put Fury in trouble.