Is Wladimir on the slide/shot?

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  • dan_cov
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    #1

    Is Wladimir on the slide/shot?

    Forgetting it was a stinker and sure he 'dominated' but I can't get over how awful he looked.

    Ignoring the hugging and such did anybody else think hes seemingly aged badly overnight?
    His feet was all over the place. I'm not one who thinks hes robotic, I think he moves exceptionally well for a guy of his size & is pretty light on his feet.
    He looked slow and sluggish despite weighing in less than he usually does.
    He barely threw his right hand at all! He fought the whole fight one handed.
    His shots didn't appear to have much snap

    It leaves me believing this generation of HWs is even worse than people think.
    Jab, clinch, jab, clinch after this has happened 50 times you'd of thought a guy would of worked a way around it, right? Or tried to at least

    The key to beating Wladimir IMO is somebody explosive with good head movement, a mid-range combination puncher. I legitimately believe that despite being a cruiserweight that Rakhim Chahkhiev would knock Wladimir out. I think he brutalises him. Absolutely destroys him in shockingly one sided fashion.

    Hes not going to plod inside & let Wlad lean on him. Hes not going to stay on the end of Wlads jab and invite that right hand.
    Rakhim has questionable stamina but did you see how quickly Wladimir faded when being forced out of his comfort zone? Rakhims style is reminiscent of Sanders. I feel Wlads still the same fighter hes just had nobody in there capable of exploiting his weaknesses.

    Where was the overhand right from Povetkin?

    I always did feel just about everyone was harsh of Wladimir but on that performance despite winning just about every round I now have a very hard time seeing him hanging with the best HWs.

    Its harsh as hes at the end of his career, hes aging and its inevitable but he is not as good as I thought he was. He had no answers but to grab & lean.
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    He definitely could have fought a lot better than that. The clinching was unnecessary. Povetkin was no threat at all, in any point of the fight. I think when Wlad watches the fight again he'll realize that he didn't have to do that.

    I wouldn't go as far as to say he's aged. He looked way better against Wach and Pianetta (not saying much). He needs to redeem himself with a fight against Pulev.

    Especially now since he's receiving the criticism.

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    • Simurgh
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      #3
      He looked very bad by his standards but we can't say anything by one fight. He admitted he is not pleased with his performance + he looked excellent against Wach and Pianetta.

      I think he needs a trainer.

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      • Cuban Linx
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        #4
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        I now have a very hard time seeing him hanging with the best HWs.
        lol talk about an overreaction.

        Look, apart from Tyson Fury, who has the size and inside game capable of challenging Wlad, and Pulev who has a nice quick jab and is also big, The other HW's are still nowhere near his level.

        Just look at Povetkin, he had no answer to getting held and clinched up. You can blame that on Wlad, but at some point Povetkin had to adjust. Where were the uppercuts? where were the hooks to the body? Everytime he got clinched up he waited for the referee to separate them with doing any damage.

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        • yoz
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          What the f, Dan? He's not shot. It probably had something to do with fighting 'away' from home. Also, let's be real, Povetkin was of greater danger than Wach and Mormeck. I like that Wlad fights regularly, but going from can to contender isn't ideal.

          Who knows what went on in camp, as well? I agree with the poster above, he needs a new trainer. Banks will expedite his downfall.

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          • damuttz112
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            He's declined since the Haye bout. It's hard to tell due to quality of his opposition; Pianeta, Wach etc. He looked far quicker on his feet and more explosive against Haye than Povetkin.

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            • Weltschmerz
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              Povetkin had no answers either. Blame both of them. Wlad won, end of story. Don't judge him from one poor performance, as others pointed out he's looked excellent recently except the Pov fight.

              I want to see him fight Fury and Wilder.

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              • dan_cov
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                I mean HWs of the past. He still beats everyone out there at the minute

                He is well on the slide in my eyes and I can't feel his reign has been attributed against bums he has massive advantages over coupled with the fact they're simply **** to start with and fight to his strengths.

                Wladimir is timid. Hes still the same fighter hes just lucky there isn't a decent explosive HW to capitalise

                If Haye can land a rematch and fight not so negatively, now saying he will but he can beat Wladimir. I see that now.

                I think hes very good at what he does but hes fought a load of timid bums there for a pay cheque and cruiserweights contempt on shelling up and getting props for bravery (being a punchbag)

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                • dan_cov
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                  Povetkin had no answers either. Blame both of them. Wlad won, end of story. Don't judge him from one poor performance, as others pointed out he's looked excellent recently except the Pov fight.

                  I want to see him fight Fury and Wilder.

                  There is 10 other HWs who'd look excellent against the **** hes faced lately. Wach & Pianeta had nothing, they're just big guys who had undefeated records that was as padded as possible. Neither one of them even attempted to do a single thing.

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                  • dan_cov
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                    That is why Wladimir has looked a monster; his opposition. Its easy to look like your stamina is amazing when opponents aren't making you miss or giving you anything to think about.

                    Povetkin made Wlad work and was landing his own shots - Wladimir was blowing hard after 3 and his shots had very little on.

                    Wladimir does not like angles. He likes guys who stand in front of him, upright & let him jab them in the face all night.

                    Sorry but nothing is changing my mind that Wladimir is a product of a weak era. Not saying he isn't a damn good HW but hes being made to look superhuman almost because of how poor these guys of today are.

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