Floyd and Pressure Fighters

[Augustane]

I rewatched the Cotto fight and can see that Mayweather struggles more with a guy who cuts off the ring and puts the pressure on him. This was how both De La Hoya and Cotto had success. At the same time - neither of them are know to be effective pressure fighters.

The only other closest thing would've been Ricky Hatton, but he's a mauler, more than a high-output fighter.

This is why Floyd has been given heat for fighting these three fighters: Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, and Manny Pacquiao. They all have one thing in common - high punch output and pressure.

Everyone Floyd has fought that I can remember have been boxer-punchers or boxers. There hasn't been someone who tried to go to war with him since Cotto and De La Hoya - the same two who have seen the most success against Mayweather.

Feel free to point my observation wrong.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I agree to a certain extent, that a high pressure fighter would give floyd more problems than one that would box him,,, your not outboxing floyd ever,, but a pressure fighter can cause him problems,,, but floyd has showed he can handle the pressure as well,,,

just watch floyd-chavez,,
chavez came in like a mad man, determined as hell, gave everything he could, yet floyd was still better and handled him,,,

one of floyd's great fights that gets neglected

[noStylez]

It is a harder style match up for Floyd but his footwork, balance and timing are just too good. I wouldn't put Pac as a pressure fighter, he doesn't really know how to cut off the ring.

[The Gambler1981]

Except the 3 guys you listed are nothing like Cotto or Oscar, Oscar is a boxer he isn't a pressure fighter at all in fact he is awful at it.

Cotto is the best boxer pressure fighter of the lot, he is not a high output guy he is a thoughtful guy who applies thoughtful pressure. He really didn't even get close to winning, he was fighting a losing battle the whole time.


Williams and Margarito apply reckless pressure and got out boxed on numerous occasions when guys committed to the task and they had very little ring generalship which is key for a pressure fighter to apply effective pressure.

Manny is not exactly a pressure fighter either, he is a high output offensive boxer who is better than those other guys but he is not thoughtful either at least in terms of forcing guys into advantageous positions for him and guys who don't oblige him always caused him to get frustrated.

[hectari]

I rewatched the Cotto fight and can see that Mayweather struggles more with a guy who cuts off the ring and puts the pressure on him. This was how both De La Hoya and Cotto had success. At the same time - neither of them are know to be effective pressure fighters.

The only other closest thing would've been Ricky Hatton, but he's a mauler, more than a high-output fighter.

This is why Floyd has been given heat for fighting these three fighters: Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, and Manny Pacquiao. They all have one thing in common - high punch output and pressure.

Everyone Floyd has fought that I can remember have been boxer-punchers or boxers. There hasn't been someone who tried to go to war with him since Cotto and De La Hoya - the same two who have seen the most success against Mayweather.

Feel free to point my observation wrong.

Castillo gave him hell, that was the fight that gave Floyd the image of a runner. He was going all over the ring fighting scary int he first fight, the rematch he fought super cautious. Floyd at 130 was more of a combo in and out puncher he threw a lot of timed punches and went for the KO, the first Castillo fight changed him.

Castillo sparred with Manny for the Cotto fight in the Philippines and he said that Pacman would beat him.

Floyd also said Augustus gave him a tough fight, awkward and punches from bunches and angles, Floyd cannot fight guys who are unorthodox and aggressive with stamina.

He is a spot fighter who needs you to be flat footed and stationary so he can time you and get out fast. His face is open to the left straight hand as evidenced with Oscar and Cotto.

Margarito had an iron chin, high punch rate, and stamina, he was basically a bigger version of Castillo no way Floyd could hold up to that pressure, and Paul Willaims as well lots of pressure and stamina.


Floyd also said the fighter who would give him a tough fight would be Aaron Pryor and who was compared to Aaron Pryor ? Manny Pacquiao, Emmanuel Steward when he first saw Pacman compared Pac to Aaron Pryor and Henry Amrstrong because of his buzzsaw aggression and stamina at featherweight.

[E.B.H]

guys who just let them hands go with have the best success.

All these boxers are looking to land that shot, mayweather to fast. Someone who throws no matter what is waht gonna do mayweather in, 4-5-6 punch combos, he might dodge most but one will land.

These fighters who try to land a shot off what they see fail cause floyd reflexes are so damn fast so once your brain registers their a spot to land better believe mayweather brain registered you are gonna try to land that shot and he already going into defense mode to take that shot away from you so he out of the danger zone before that punch landed or he blocks it almost 100%.

People gonna laugh but someone like Rios, Margarito, Williams, Leo Santa Cruz, etc will have more success on floyd then any elite boxer-puncher (yeah I know leo tiny motherfucker but talking style wise here), why would they have more success? cause they dont pick their shots, they just throw em. they miss with the left and without even looking they throw a overhand right hoping your face is their, they miss that they already trying the left to the body, then that gonna hit something either arms or body but then they already throwing another punch somewhere else.

Predictable, orthoxdox fighting style mayweather can defend against with ease.

[dynomyte1444]

I rewatched the Cotto fight and can see that Mayweather struggles more with a guy who cuts off the ring and puts the pressure on him. This was how both De La Hoya and Cotto had success. At the same time - neither of them are know to be effective pressure fighters.

The only other closest thing would've been Ricky Hatton, but he's a mauler, more than a high-output fighter.

This is why Floyd has been given heat for fighting these three fighters: Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, and Manny Pacquiao. They all have one thing in common - high punch output and pressure.

Everyone Floyd has fought that I can remember have been boxer-punchers or boxers. There hasn't been someone who tried to go to war with him since Cotto and De La Hoya - the same two who have seen the most success against Mayweather.

Feel free to point my observation wrong.

baldomir was known for that. Castillo was known for that

If you watch pac he boxes from the outside. that is a no go against the best boxer of this generation

[cantor5150]

One name Ricardo Mayorga>>>>end thread

[Larry the boss]

Paul Williams Manny nor Margo had a jab and thats all Cotto or Oscar landed

[Larry the boss]

It is time to give credit where it is due,no 1 style will beat Floyd,dude is a boxing junkie and lives breaths and ****s boxing..dude EARNED HIS POSITION