did Wlads fight change your opinion of him?

[FrankieBruno]

My opinion on Wlad is the same, a very dodgy man, who's promoter pays off refs to be lenient so Wlad can get away with illegal moves to avoid inside fighting

The guys a cheat, that has no bearing on his skills because he does have skills, but at the end of the day he's still a cheat who gets his way via Bonte

I feel sorry for any shorter guy who faces him, they will stand no chance because this guy can hug and lean his way to victory

Disgrace to HW boxing, I have way more respect for his brother Vitali who comes to fight

[gauze]

it has changed my opinion on him. now i don't necessarily think he NEEDS to clinch and hold guys heads down to win. i think it just tends to happen more often than it should due to his height when these shorter heavies try to get on the inside. he did show some decent inside skills in the 9th round maybe? he should fight like that more often.

nonetheless, i've lowered him on my p4p list and i consider him lower on an all-time level (in head to head fights). i think prime or even slightly past prime versions of lewis, tyson, holmes, foreman, and ali beat him. louis, liston, frazier, bowe, and holyfield are pick em fights. maybe even the tua that beat ruiz and moorer.

if wlad stays undefeated from here on out, he's still a top 20 all-time heavyweight, possibly top 10 depending on how things unfold.

1 mayweather
2 marquez
3 ward
4 klitschko
5 rigondeaux
6 froch
7 bradley
8 hopkins
9 d. garcia
10 martinez

klitschko at number 10 and everyone below him moves up a spot. very unimpressive showing against povetkin. i had him winning all of the rounds but it wasn't necessarily because of his skills.

[Boxing Goat]

there is no defense for what wlad did against povetkin who was totally outclassed in thi fight. he didn't need to do this to win.

When did I somehow condone the way he fought?

He won how he felt like he had to and it was ugly. Simple as that.

I totally hated the way he fought and if I knew he would do that every time I wouldn't watch his fights anymore. The matter of the situation is that he stinks it out every now and then. All great champions do that from time to time. He certainly didn't do that against Wach or Thompson.

[Boxing Goat]

Well I can pluck up any random rankings, and they'd be just as legitimate. You have to remember, Povetkin's high ranking stems mainly from the fact the WBA gifted him a paper "title" (yea, it's hard to even call it a title). But it's hard to argue that Povetkin was outside of the top 5, definitely.

Random rankings or not, I use Ring as my deciding ranker. I always have and always will until somebody else better comes along.

[SUBZER0ED]

Brick wall hit the nail right on the head; Wladmir Klitschko has a glass jaw, so he held and leaned on Alexander Povotkin to avoid getting hit and to wear him down! Most fighters who face the Klitschkos are awed by their enormous height and ripped physiques, so they stay away from them. If they connect with some of their sledgehammer jabs, their opponents become almost afraid to engage them. However, Povotkin displayed signs of a lack of fear for Wladmir Klistschko that Corrie Saunders displayed. He was willing to try to move inside so that he could nail that glass jaw. Wlad saw this, panicked, and resorted to similar tactics that Emannuel Stewart taught Lennox Lewis, another skilled heavyweight with a glass jaw. He grabbed, held and leaned on his opponent, but far more blatently frequently than I can remember EVER seeing another fighter do it! The ref ******! Luis Pabon's only attempt to ref the fight properly came when he took a point from Klitschko for another repeated foul he committed, which was pushing Povotkin down after landing a good shot. After seeing that fight, I have a better understanding of why the heavyweight division is so weak today. There are two giants currently holding the belts, whom few are willing to face. They both use similar tactics to win, which is not very exciting. Whomever does have the guts to face either of them not only has to get past their enormous size, but also their cheap tactics of grabbing, holding and leaning to wear out their opponents. Vitali isn't as bad as Wladmir is, but you get the point. The best thing that can happen to the heavyweight division is the retirement of these men. I would like to see Deonte Wilder Knock both of them out first though! He's their height, and vicious! Let's hope he proves to be as skilled as he now appears. He should get a title shot inside one year.

[RiC-DiC]

No, I already knew Wlad was the reason nobody likes HW boxing anymore. But Wlad's boring style has been a blessing for Floyd and fighters in the lighter weight divisions.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Huck is better than he's given credit for and Povetkin is ranked #2 in the division and has been for quite some time.

Wlad is champ
Vitali was #1 and
Povetkin was #2
It's been that way for several years.

According to what?

[SUCIO416]

i never really saw such a disgrace since the first round...

since the FIRST ROUND this man was REACHING OUT to hug and hold after a jab or after a straight... IT WAS DISGUSTING


i tried watching the fight, i watched two rounds and then i watched the wrestling-mma match that was round 7... could hardly get past that, much less any longer


im not even being sarcastic or exaggerated... what a disgrace to show this as boxing


i wonder how his trainers could feel proud on national tv to be in that corner

[LeG00N]

yup, it made me realize how great he truly is

[JDezi4]

Kinda... It'd be life if Floyd fought Brandon Rios, and held 90% of the fight... He doesn't have to, he's clearly the far more talented fighter, so why did?

GSP vs Nick Diaz... Just massacring a fight he could win with ease just to protect his pretty face