The Official CompuClinchİ Thread

[kardsufur]

I am watching Ali-Frazier II now. I haven't seen it for 20+ years. I made a comment about it being the first Ali fight I remembered where he held a lot.

Anyway I am doing a cumpuclinch.

I have watched the first 4 rounds and the fight is much much better than I remembered. Boy did these two matchup perfectly.

My count so far:

R1: 12

R2: 6

R3: 13

R4: 12

I am taking a break now as I have things to do, but I really look forward to see the rest of it.

wow..Those numbers are scarily close to wlad/povetkin numbers.

[IronDanHamza]

Another 16 clinches in round 11.

Robert Byrd again warns the fighters for holding and implores them to "c'mon and fight!" like an idiot, meanwhile I'm on the edge of my seat over here.

I thought you were a Hopkins fan?

[D4thincarnation]

i thought it was a bad look as well, but he knows the fighter better than we do. klimov wasn't giving himself any chance to win the fight being so passive. saluki's instructions were what he thought the fighter needed to hear to motivate him to action.

Didn't work though, not it the slightest.

[DoktorSleepless]

I actually had never seen Hatton-Tszyu in it's entirety before, and this unintentionally ended up being a compuclinch project for me. I've never seen a guy string his clinch combos so well. Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's one really long clinch of multiple clinches broken up by millisecond breaks. Some truly elite level stuff.

1. 15
2. 12
3. 15
4. 15
5. 14
6. 16
7. 12
8. 13
9. 17
10. 16
11. 17

Total:162 clinches
Average per round: 14.7

[Weebler I]

I actually had never seen Hatton-Tszyu in it's entirety before, and this unintentionally ended up being a compuclinch project for me.

You've mistaken clinching for inside fighting. It's a not a clinch if both guys are throwing punches on the inside. That's inside-fighting and most often Hatton and Tsyzu boxed and worked out of it as instructed by the referee.

For example, in round 2 you have counted 12 clinches when in fact the ref only had to call 'break' 4 times (i.e. just 4 clinches).

That was the real issue in last weekend's fight, Wlad made no attempt to throw punches up close and his long arms and pulling down on his opponent's neck prevented Povetkin from throwing any. Pabon also would not let the fighters punch on the inside.

[DoktorSleepless]

A clinch is a clinch. It doesn't matter if the ref doesn't break them. To claim there were only 4 clinches in that wrestling match of a round is ridiculous.

[Weebler I]

A clinch is a clinch. It doesn't matter if the ref doesn't break them. To claim there were only 4 clinches in that wrestling match of a round is ridiculous.

A clinch is when two fighters are clinched together not throwing punches just waiting for the ref to separate them. If they're throwing punches on the inside, they're fighting. It's like Smoger says, if you have one arm free, use it, work out.

Aesthetically you might not like it, and I understand that but they are fighting, they're not just grabbing each other doing nothing. That ref would've been far better than Pabon, Povetkin would have at least got to land some body shots after he worked himself inside.

[DoktorSleepless]

No, holding and hitting is illegal. It's even explicit in the Neveda Athletic Commission rules.

NAC 467.675 Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030) The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:
1. Hitting below the belt.
2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.

Freaken Smoger is part of the problem. He let this travesty happen.

[Weebler I]

No, holding and hitting is illegal. It's even explicit in the Neveda Athletic Commission rules.

Freaken Smoger is part of the problem. He let this happen.

Hitting and holding is illegal, but if one of your arms is being held (i.e. you're not the one holding) you're free to hit with the other.

Smoger imo (and in that of others) is the best ref in the game. He should've penalised Alexander granted, but he's reffed a lot more than just one bout.

[DoktorSleepless]

Hitting and holding is illegal, but if one of your arms is being held (i.e. you're not the one holding) you're free to hit with the other.

Even if that's right, Hatton is almost always the one who initiates all the holding/clinching.