Why do people blame Floyd for the Canelo fight being boring?

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  • edgarg
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    #51
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Margo needed duiretics to make 150 and Margo is bigger than Canelo and not near the fighter Canelo is at the same time , Manny also forced him into a 26 ft ring ; as if Margo wasnt slow enough already now he supposed to catch him in a ring Klitschko fights in , wasnt no accident either lol .

    Im not even going to go into the 2 yr out and coming of a KO loss but they figure into the result also .

    And then the best little trick about this match was wearing illegal 8oz gloves , they knew Manny wont KO him with 8s or 10s , so lets bust him up and 8s are a lot better for fast hands .

    That fight was a scam and you swallowed it hook line and sinker because you don't understand boxing and how these things are manipulated in matchmaking and you definitely dont understand the effect they can have in the ring .
    I always understood that the Rules call for a maximum of 24 ft rings. Also if Margarito used diuretics, how was it that weren't caught in the tests-and were not mentioned on this site....? And also Margarito was not out of the ring for 2 years. He was out just over 13 months, and spent 3 months of that in camp before the first return fight, getting back into fighting shape. And I seem to have read that he was going regularly to the gym to keep himself fit during that year off.

    With your "over 50 years of boxing experience", you also seem to have picked up a penchant for stretching the truth until it bursts, leaving the lies out in the open.

    Don't exaggerate so much. I think you should "reload" again, this time with facts.

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    • Reloaded
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      #52
      Originally posted by MindBat
      By contrast, you get two guys who go all in, balls to the wall, who can't knock a feather out trying to rearrange each other's faces for 12 full rounds, and "they're more entertaining".
      Exactly , there is a line automatically drawn in the human brain between a fight and boxing , everybody knows what a fight is , you got to know the sport to really understand it and the science involved , the casual fan that dont understand boxing will always want the fight , because their subconscious is seeing the beating they want every one of their lives fights to receive , its a reflection of themselves , then instincts goes all the way back to the Gladiators and beyond .

      The average boxing fan is like an isolated population of good ol country boys that into their Lawn Mower Grand Prix ; then somebody comes along and shows them a F1 race car and the science behind it and they are fcked , they would think it came from outa space and would be be arguing how it cheated because its got fat tyres .

      Its very hard to relate to casual fans that just want to hate based on their own ignorance , how do you debate that with any rational , its like Blind Eddie hating on the latest movie .

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      • bigsmoothh
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        #53
        Originally posted by Kuyukut
        the only guy that floyd damaged beyond repair is ellerbe's arsehole and vice versa.
        You speak the truth......

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        • edgarg
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          #54
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          And there is your fanboy ; your admitting you dont care that every advantage was held by Manny in that fight , all you care about is somebody getting beat up , same thing with Rios now , Arum is throwing him under the bus also because just like Margo in exile after getting KOed Brandons use by date is also up , and Arum is once again going to showcase Manny in a BS cow to the slaughter deal .

          This a 21st century version of when gangsters ran boxing and Al Capone getting a tough game fighter beat to death to build up the next champ , the guy that paid his entry and sitting in the bleachers, he dont know sht , if he wasnt there he be sitting at the beach feeding seagulls with his kids .


          This is a brutal sport in and out of the ring , if only knew what goes on .
          Maybe seagulls don't like kids,, they might be too indigestible to eat. And weren't you writing so much about Arum "throwing MannyP under the bus" with his fight against Bradley, and accusing him of having bought the judges........ Now Arum is building Pacquiao up (at the end of his career) by throwing Rios under the bus...... Maybe is isn't boxing this time, but just a "going-away" party....

          With over 50 years experience of boxing you should have been able to pick up the difference between facts and prejudices in all that time.

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            #55
            Originally posted by edgarg
            Maybe seagulls don't like kids,, they might be too indigestible to eat. And weren't you writing so much about Arum "throwing MannyP under the bus" with his fight against Bradley, and accusing him of having bought the judges........ Now Arum is building Pacquiao up (at the end of his career) by throwing Rios under the bus...... Maybe is isn't boxing this time, but just a "going-away" party....

            With over 50 years experience of boxing you should have been able to pick up the difference between facts and prejudices in all that time.
            I think you should get your facts right about who is saying what because I never said anything about Bradley or Manny under a bus ,, thats BS .

            Thats exactly what Arum is doing , showcasing Manny at the expense of Brandon , and the prize is to make Manny look good and take a low risk back door ticket intro a super fight with JMM or Floyd .

            As far as your other post I will finish later and answer your Diuretics and Margos history going into that fight as Im going out , but to save me the exercise , grab an overhead shot of the ring that night , the corner pads will be 30cm wide , now reference that into the ring along one side and see what you get .

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            • MurkaMan
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              #56
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              Its because Floyd had the kid outclassed yet still chose to play it safe and due just enough to win a points decision.

              The way I see it is, if you have the ability to go the extra mile to give the paying fans their money's worth then why not? For 12 rounds it was just 1 punch at a time and even took the 12th rounds off to run around the ring. It was as if Floyd was playing an elusive game of "tag your it"
              Originally posted by E.B.H
              Cause just once, attempt to win in great fashion.

              Dont win like a bitch. yes you boxed nicely but thats it, you didnt win anyfans off your performance. Poeple who like floyd like him cause he black and or still undeafeated. No one says damn I need to see him fight again lol.


              just like jim lampley says "ive been wathcing covering boxiner over 25 years my best fight I have seen is morales vs barrera two guys who are techinician but are willing to put themselves out their to win big" parapharsing of course.

              Originally posted by Kuyukut
              what do you expect, it's floyd the most boring boxer of all time.

              are you expecting a war with floyd in it?
              Originally posted by Kuyukut
              floyd looks good to a fan boy like you but the truth is he's boring as hell. i'd say it's more exciting to watch a geigo commercials than his pitty pats and potshots. canelo didn't even perspire fighting floyd.

              pathetic...
              Originally posted by Oasis_Lad
              First time I've ever a seen a 'Feint-Off' instead of a boxing Match.

              Shit was pathetic. Both deserve criticism.


              This is not true. Floyd took risk, he pressed the attack from the opening round. He stood in the pocket the entire fight, until the final 30 seconds of the 12th round. Floyd KOing Canelo is not realistic. Floyd is a ww with a light punch, and Canelo is a tough middle weight. Yet Floyd walked him down from the 3rd round on. Floyd was tough. He took some good shots from the bigger man, and he was HURT, but he hid it so Canelo wouldnt gain confidence. He absorbed some very tough body shots, arm shots, and just walked through them all. Any time he got touched on the head, he smirked and let his hands go to steal the play away like a true champion. The crowd went WILD for this fight. This was nothing like the Ghost fight. And Floyd actually looked aggressive. He let his combinations go, he trapped the bigger man on the ropes and pummeled him. It looked like the Cotto fight, except Floyd was waaaay sharper. And this fight was actually more exciting than Danny's fight. That fight was BOORRRRIIINNGGG. People only screamed in the last round. People screamed for Floyd's fight throughout the entire fight starting from that 4th round when Floyd starting picking him apart. Lets not change history! Floyd put on a show because he knew it was a big event.

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              • Masterclass775
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                #57
                Originally posted by E.B.H
                Cause just once, attempt to win in great fashion.

                Dont win like a bitch. yes you boxed nicely but thats it, you didnt win anyfans off your performance. Poeple who like floyd like him cause he black and or still undeafeated. No one says damn I need to see him fight again lol.


                just like jim lampley says "ive been wathcing covering boxiner over 25 years my best fight I have seen is morales vs barrera two guys who are techinician but are willing to put themselves out their to win big" parapharsing of course.

                People who like floyd are either black or because he's undefeated....... You sir are a dumb****

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                • Carpe Diem
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Nobody is denying that he's a great boxer. That can't be argued. He's just not entertaining. He plays it too safe and does just enough to win on points without going the extra mile to close the show when he indeed can. Watching a fighter throw 1 pig willy punch at a time for 12 rounds isn't my idea of an entertaining fight.
                  What makes you so sure that he could have KO'd/TKO Canelo or any other past opponents that he couldn't KO'd/TKO? Floyd can barely KO welterweights, but you think he should have taken more risk and threw everything but the kitchen sink against an undersized middleweight. I don't even know why you like to bring up Manny. Floyd and Manny are completely two different fighters who operates differently inside the ring. Manny is naturally a harder and better puncher than Floyd.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #59
                    Just for the record

                    Canelo never been knocked out and a bigger man

                    Guerrero never been knocked out

                    Cotto got stopped twice but the way Floyd fights is not really the way to stop Cotto

                    Ortiz got stopped by Floyd taking advantage of a glaring mistake

                    Mosley never got stopped

                    JMM never got stopped

                    Hatton he knocked him out

                    Oscar not an easy guy to knock out when in decent condition

                    Baldomir not an easy guy to knock out

                    Judah probably was on his way to getting stopped when the bullshit occured

                    Really how many of those dudes are just easy marks to stop, with the exception of Judah he stopped the ones he should have really.

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                    • bigsmoothh
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Ray Corso
                      He's the promoter, matchmaker, manager, trainer and competitor of boring fights! So he's to blame!!! He has the public believing that his style of boxing is a top level boxing style.
                      He is a terrific counrt mover and puncher with good defensive skills because he doesn't punch in combination anymore in fear of getting hurt! He throws one or two shots then bails out weither theres punches being returned or not. He fights opponents who fight just like he does except his skill level is far above theirs! He makes sure that he avoids anyone who brings a high work rate to the ring (Pacman) thats not to say he can't win against but he avoids the best challengers because he's learned that smart business is better for him than real opposition. P)lus he's dooped his fans into thinking he's a complete action fighter when the facts are he's NOT! bottle fed his fans very nicely! Ray.
                      im impressed, you hit the nail right in the head my friend.

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