Bradley-Provodnikov Revisted

[T18Z]

Irrelevant. Boxing is scored by the rounds. Your making up your own rules again. Ruslan should have done more in the rounds he lost. And oh how quickly you forget the quote from the great Freddie Roach in Round 10:

"If you don't pick it up I'm going to stop the fight"

But Ruslan wasn't taking any punishment, huh? lol



If the ref sees elbows on the back and one fighter pushing down on the other, its going to be a push. That's clearly what happened in this case.



No. That's just corruption to save the casinos from losing money.

Bradley also was told by his corner they'll stop the fight if he doesn't listen. Anyways, It's damn clear as day Roach was attempting to motivate Ruslan, why do you ignore common sense? Ruslan was never even close to hitting the canvas, Roach was adding drama, because fighters need that when they're pushing through the exhaustion barrier.

I imagine you're one of those people who sees Bradleys face and Ruslans and immediately thinks "look how much damage Ruslan took, see!", while ignoring both fighters skin color, susceptibility to bruising and cuts.

R10, Bradley lands 12/65, Ruslan 13/42, can you guess who landed with power shots and who landed with jabs? 7 jabs for Bradley, 10 power punches for Ruslan, again, common sense.

The rounds Bradley clearly won is where his punch stats sky-rocket, but the competitive rounds? He either lands the same, barley more, or a little less, and always consists of far more jabs, where as Ruslan used the harder hitting power punches, arguably harder to land.

Also R11 was clearly Provodnikov. 26 landed for Bradley, 24 for Provod, half were soft jabs for Bradley, were as close to 80% of Ruslans landed were power punches... common sense again.

[-PBP-]

Shall I also remind you that you forgot was Bradleys trainer said? He will stop the fight too if Bradley continues to ignore his instructions? It's damn clear as day Roach was attempting to motivate Ruslan, why do you ignore common sense? Ruslan was never even close to hitting the canvas, Roach was adding drama, because fighters need that when they're pushing through the exhaustion barrier.

I imagine you're one of those people who sees Bradleys face and Ruslans and immediately thinks "look how much damage Ruslan took, see!", while ignoring both fighters skin color, susceptibility to bruising and cuts.

OK. So they both took punishment.

[Hougigo]

No, the counter is punishment. You don't given Paulie M a 10-8 round if he doesn't deal enough damage despite throwing loads of punches. There is more to boxing than punches landed, it's about how much you actually damage the other person too.

Bradley dominated the third round, Ruslan did absolutely nothing... 15 punches over three rounds? That's 5 punches a minute... you're right there is more to boxing than punches landed and Ruslan did absolutely nothing in the third.
I'll take out the punches thrown and landed... he just walked forward the whole round.
You sound like Arum right now.... I guess Chavez really did win because he hurt Vera more than Vera hurt him
Should we give Bradley a 10-8 round for ******* Ruslan's eye up too?

[thuggery]

I still have it a TKO1 for Ruslan but even with the refs incompetence I still had Ruslan winning. There were a ton of 10-8 rounds for Ruslan sending Bradley to the ropes defenseless. I'm gonna watch it again later tonight doe

[Hougigo]

Shall I also remind you that you forgot was Bradleys trainer said? He will stop the fight too if Bradley continues to ignore his instructions? It's damn clear as day Roach was attempting to motivate Ruslan, why do you ignore common sense? Ruslan was never even close to hitting the canvas, Roach was adding drama, because fighters need that when they're pushing through the exhaustion barrier.

I imagine you're one of those people who sees Bradleys face and Ruslans and immediately thinks "look how much damage Ruslan took, see!", while ignoring both fighters skin color, susceptibility to bruising and cuts.

oh, but Bradely's trainer wasn't trying to motivate him to listen to him and start boxing? Seemed to have worked because Ruslan's vortex technique to drag Bradley into a phonebooth brawl stopped working after the second round.
And who cares if Ruslan was close to hitting the ground or not, his tissue face was getting repeatedly hit by mr. featherfist and getting cut up.
Common sense?
If you think Bradley's trainer was legit going to stop the fight, why wouldn't you believe Roach would for ruslan who was constantly getting hit in the face and cut by a guy who everyone says couldn't bust a g****?

[daggum]

I still have it a TKO1 for Ruslan but even with the refs incompetence I still had Ruslan winning. There were a ton of 10-8 rounds for Ruslan sending Bradley to the ropes defenseless. I'm gonna watch it again later tonight doe

those are called knockdowns. the ref was complete trash. the ropes aren't allowed to hold you up. you can't just fall into the ropes and then say "oh no i'm all good, nothing happened." unless you are the A-side fighter of course.

[Southpawology]

oh, but Bradely's trainer wasn't trying to motivate him to listen to him and start boxing? Seemed to have worked because Ruslan's vortex technique to drag Bradley into a phonebooth brawl stopped working after the second round.
And who cares if Ruslan was close to hitting the ground or not, his tissue face was getting repeatedly hit by mr. featherfist and getting cut up.
Common sense?
If you think Bradley's trainer was legit going to stop the fight, why wouldn't you believe Roach would for ruslan who was constantly getting hit in the face and cut by a guy who everyone says couldn't bust a g****?

Ruslans face swells up if the wind blows too hard he sports a black eye in like 95% of his pics. Bradley is VERY lucky he had that ref that night because alot of refs would of stopped it after bradley tried to get up and instead did a carthweel across the ring. Still FOTY for me so far though

[T18Z]

oh, but Bradely's trainer wasn't trying to motivate him to listen to him and start boxing? Seemed to have worked because Ruslan's vortex technique to drag Bradley into a phonebooth brawl stopped working after the second round.
And who cares if Ruslan was close to hitting the ground or not, his tissue face was getting repeatedly hit by mr. featherfist and getting cut up.
Common sense?
If you think Bradley's trainer was legit going to stop the fight, why wouldn't you believe Roach would for ruslan who was constantly getting hit in the face and cut by a guy who everyone says couldn't bust a g****?

No, Brads trainer was trying to motivate him, I never said any different did I? I just countered his argument with what he threw at me. I have NO CLUE why you are bringing up tissue damage, that has ZERO relevance, do you understand Bradley is a darker tone to Ruslan? Bruising will not show as easily/at all? You understand bone structure and skin sensitivity will decide how red a fighters face becomes and how easily they swell or bruise? It is not a clear indicator of punishment.

Lets use the facts and link to common sense. Who would you rather be in that fight? Who do you think suffered brain damage? Who's speach was slurred from the damage? Who didn't even know where they were after the fight? Now, once you've answered all those, it's quite obvious that Bradleys corner were FAR more likely to throw in the towl than Roach, especially when Roach knows Ruslan can KO Bradley, yet not vice versa, cmon.

[T18Z]

Bradley dominated the third round, Ruslan did absolutely nothing... 15 punches over three rounds? That's 5 punches a minute... you're right there is more to boxing than punches landed and Ruslan did absolutely nothing in the third.
I'll take out the punches thrown and landed... he just walked forward the whole round.
You sound like Arum right now.... I guess Chavez really did win because he hurt Vera more than Vera hurt him
Should we give Bradley a 10-8 round for ******* Ruslan's eye up too?

Why bother comparing Chavez-Vera to Ruslan-Bradley? The level of punishment taken is not even on the same level and you know it, you're just attempting to downplay my argument with a pointless comparison of fights that played out completely different.

[daggum]

Ruslans face swells up if the wind blows too hard he sports a black eye in like 95% of his pics. Bradley is VERY lucky he had that ref that night because alot of refs would of stopped it after bradley tried to get up and instead did a carthweel across the ring. Still FOTY for me so far though

for me that is worth extra points. he obviously did it on purpose. he fought like an idiot on purpose according to his fans so why not? he probably fell into the ropes twice after ruslan hit him in order to test the ropes durablity. they passed! very strong ropes.