Is GGG best at 160? Or he is yet to beat Martinez and Barker?

[MrRolltide91]

He has to beat martinez

[boliodogs]

You never know for sure who would win a fight between top fighters until they fight. Right now I have a very high opinion of GGG and I think he is by far the best middleweight in the world. I think he probably beat all the 168 pounders too even though he is not a big middleweight. He said he could make 154 and still be strong. If that's true then I think he also beats anyone at 154 easily.Mayweather could give him a good fight at 154 but I think GGG would win. Floyd is too small to beat him and could probably fight at 140 if he wanted to.

[illmaticfighter]

He has to beat martinez

exactly ,what i was gonna say

[KO'er]

Maravilla would get KO'd by Golovkin at his point of his career.

Plus with all the injuries he's be incurring from his past 2 fights, you wouldn't be surprised if he suffered some injuries during the fight too. (non GGG injuries)

[Citizen Koba]

I already conceded your point before.You seem easily able to discern the motivation for "floydstans" posts but can't for fellow "GGGstans". I still stand by what I say.

You might be one of the few posters who was big on GGG before, I don't recall saying you weren't. As such, you surely have noticed a surge in threads like this touting GGG as the #1 MW.

I don't want to (and probably shouldn't be ) labouring the point. The threads about FMJ - GGG were almost all (if you take the time to look back) started by Floyd guys taking offense at the supposed 'insult' of Gena suggesting that FMJ would be his 'dream fight' - nothing more. The threads and discussion were begun and dominated by offended Floyd fans with very little (and for the record, surprisingly muted) - input by GGG fans, some of whom can be remarkably grandiose in their claims.

Once more, Floyd does not belong in this discussion and it is you and no-one else who introduced his name. I can't imagine why you'd take the time but if you go through the previous threads on GGG-FMJ you'll find that they, also, have been driven by fans of FMJ. Most GGG fans have shown more interest in Maravilla, Froch or even Ward. There may have been FMJ 'haters' joining in but if so, not on a significant level. Most Golovkin fans have little interest in him fighting at JMW.

[New England]

you don't rank on the eye test. you rank guys based on accomplishments.


will martinez get beat up and stopped by golovkin? absolutely. i can't imagine anybody who watches boxing thinking otherwise. golovkin will beat the hell out of a 39 year old martinez. martinez will never fight again.


is golovkin the best MW in the world right now? on the eye test, yes. again, the eye test isn't how you rank guys.

the top ranked middleweight in the world (and the lineal champion,) is sergio martinez.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't want to (and probably shouldn't be ) labouring the point. The threads about FMJ - GGG were almost all (if you take the time to look back) started by Floyd guys taking offense at the supposed 'insult' of Gena suggesting that FMJ would be his 'dream fight' - nothing more. The threads and discussion were begun and dominated by offended Floyd fans with very little (and for the record, surprisingly muted) - input by GGG fans, some of whom can be remarkably grandiose in their claims.

Once more, Floyd does not belong in this discussion and it is you and no-one else who introduced his name. I can't imagine why you'd take the time but if you go through the previous threads on GGG-FMJ you'll find that they, also, have been driven by fans of FMJ. Most GGG fans have shown more interest in Maravilla, Froch or even Ward. There may have been FMJ 'haters' joining in but if so, not on a significant level. Most Golovkin fans have little interest in him fighting at JMW.

I told you why I introduced his name-its based on the same threads you are referencing. Those threads were in no way started by floyd fans, and they were dominated by the usual suspects twosweethooks, cgarcia, junior gong, etc etc.

The point doesnt need to be belabored, we agree. Maybe it was more anti floyd fans than pro GGG fans. But you can simply check the date of when threads were started. The bulk of them were after that statement and the fight game episode where Lampley threw sergio completely under the bus.

[Fetta]

He has to beat Martinez. I remember when lucas was the next ATG and how he was going to murder garcia in the ring. We all saw what happened. I learned from that and now i feel with GGG the Potential is there but he hasnt done anything to say hes the best MW so ill wait till he steps up

[Citizen Koba]

you don't rank on the eye test. you rank guys based on accomplishments.


will martinez get beat up and stopped by golovkin? absolutely. i can't imagine anybody who watches boxing thinking otherwise. golovkin will beat the hell out of a 39 year old martinez. martinez will never fight again.


is golovkin the best MW in the world right now? on the eye test, yes. again, the eye test isn't how you rank guys.

the top ranked middleweight in the world (and the lineal champion,) is sergio martinez.

This appears to be the consensus^

H2H Golovkin is (by most here) considered the best MW on the planet.

Beating the current and proven lineal champ is a necessity however, to confirm GGGs status.

You listening HBO? Maravilla's a great and respected champ and deserves his big $ send off (or the chance to put the pretender in his place). Make it happen.

EDIT: sorry Darren, somewhere down the line, you dropped out of this discussion, good luck, nonetheless.

[Weebler I]

its not just a personal opinion. this isn't something like ATG or p4p. If thats the case, a poster could just say Quillin is. Yet whenever a poster dare suggest that, there is a huge backlash even though he and GGG have beaten about the same quality of fighter.

Aren't you "backlashing" now though? A couple of others have said the same as you.

Objectively Golovkin isn't number one based on who he has beaten, but everyone's entitled to their personal opinion on who is the best.

Besides, JLoro posts it about Quillin all the time.