Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Brings Back Conditioning Coach Justin Fortune

[GRUSTLER]

If you look at the Marquez Pacquiao 3 fight, Marquez landed that same feint to the body to overhand right shot he did in round 3 of the 4th fight, and Pacquiao took it like a champ in the 3rd fight.
Its amazing how much more powerful Marquez became in that 4th fight, not by combinations but just by one punch KO power.
Marquez also landed a similar KO shot from the 4th fight in round 6, in the 3rd fight that rocked Pacquiao back, but did not make him go down or out.

I believe that the HEAVY weight training did in fact help Marquez to become stronger. Look he was doing heavy weight like 30 pounds i saw in high reps very fast. For more than a year, he was training just for Pacquiao and nobody else. Marquez has never cheated, not even on his wife like Manny lol (sorry Manny). I think his victory was due to his obsession to beat Pac and hard and heavy weight training

And lets not forget that Marquez went to Pacquiao's body a lot more than he did in the 1st 3 fights. That takes a lot out of you too. Through the whole fight Marquez was setting Manny up. He knew the guy very well after 3 fights. Both went in with the mind set to get the KO and Marquez got it. Marquez does have KO power. I still don't understand how it is so hard to believe that Marquez could KO Pacquiao. Marquez KO'd fighters that never been KO'd before and Manny has.

[GRUSTLER]

when pac hooks up with a known steroid chemist at age 39 and all of a sudden shows a drastic improvement in physique and power then i'll start pointing fingers..sure it was somewhat su****ious that pac didn't initially agree to testing with no cutoff...but he agreed to it later...and he's doing it now with a trusted organization...

Pacquiao had the opportunities to test Mosley and JMM twice and declined all 3 times because they wanted Pacquiao to get tested too. I never said or accused Manny of being dirty but he sure acted like a su****ious person. Now after all of this time he wants to do testing for Rios when he could have just done it for Floyd and all of his other fights but he kept screaming "let the commission do their job". Guess what?...... commission did their job for the 4th Marquez/Pacquiao fight and both were clean and that's how it's going to be for me.

[richardt]

If you look at the Marquez Pacquiao 3 fight, Marquez landed that same feint to the body to overhand right shot he did in round 3 of the 4th fight, and Pacquiao took it like a champ in the 3rd fight.
Its amazing how much more powerful Marquez became in that 4th fight, not by combinations but just by one punch KO power.
Marquez also landed a similar KO shot from the 4th fight in round 6, in the 3rd fight that rocked Pacquiao back, but did not make him go down or out.

I believe that the HEAVY weight training did in fact help Marquez to become stronger. Look he was doing heavy weight like 30 pounds i saw in high reps very fast. For more than a year, he was training just for Pacquiao and nobody else. Marquez has never cheated, not even on his wife like Manny lol (sorry Manny). I think his victory was due to his obsession to beat Pac and hard and heavy weight training

I agree. He used more weights, practiced that same punch and knocked down sparring partners with it, and found the solution to beat Pac was more than just smarts, it was timing and brute force. I have seen people add muscle well into their 40's so the assertion of PEDS that some have incinuated is not fair. JMM was the smarter and stronger fighter that night and went through the fires of hell to get that well earned win.

[richardt]

Marquez does have KO power. I still don't understand how it is so hard to believe that Marquez could KO Pacquiao. Marquez KO'd fighters that never been KO'd before and Manny has.

True. And there have been many fights when in a rematch that a fighter won, lost, or drew had a KO inserted between a 2-3 fight series. It's not unheard of for sure. JMM and Pac trained for and planned on the KO and it happened exactly as they said it would, just one guy was on the KO by side. JMM probably thought, okay, I can outslick Pac at times but that has not gotten me the decision....I need to do something different. And he did with weight training, punch selection, power and pure timing. It worked.

[SoulByThePound]

the same fortune who said Manny would lose to mayweather, i remember on certain youtube videos some die hard MP fanatics was trashing this guy

[Reloaded]

So Manny is now hiring a PEDs cheat .

http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...itive-for-peds

DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

[Roja's480]

Your muscles need oxygen and your body transfers oxygen through your blood. Manny believes that if he loses blood by getting blood drawn close to the fight it will weaken him. The human body will regenerate blood if given enough time. This is a scientific fact.

It got me thinking of Anchorman

[mrjoeblive]

when i encounter idiots like you i hold no reservations......it's going to happen eventually maybe not me but someone else..better here on a internet forum then somewhere on the street where you can get your teeth kicked in...

so keep your ****** questions to yourself....

I promise it would not take me 2 minutes to beat your intestines out of your rag doll body. I bet your whore azz never laced up a pair but you post like you actually did battle with another man. You talk about hurting some one but only behind the wall of your key board. You dont scare any one but your self. Go finish crying because pac lost his last 3 fights you red twat.

[MC Hammer]

i highly doubt it...a fighter's chin is usually the last thing to go...pac started showing a decline in other areas, but his chin still looked good..if pac showed a severe decline in his chin then it would have been noticeable before the 4th marquez fight...

and sure as hell a 39 year old wouldn't be the one to expose pac's declining punch resistance...

Power's the last to . Once a chin gets checked a fighter goes down a lot more frequently

[mrjoeblive]

go die in a ditch somewhere

Anytime twatlungs I got 20k that says I kick your azz in less than 2 rounds.