Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Brings Back Conditioning Coach Justin Fortune

[JaYDeuce11]

True EvOL! Many had broken marquez nose in the 5th and he coudlnt breathe out of it anymore. Freddie should have just advised him to slowly break him down n be careful but ope freddie rolled the dice with pac and said go for the ko like he always wants.....freddie roach is the mike dantoniof boxing

[HanzGruber]

Today we learned manny denied drug tests for Floyd cause it insulted his intelligence lmao

[mrjoeblive]

Why are yall always crying about Pac and PED's ? Thats as dumb as a box of rocks !!!

The reason Pac scoffed at take tests back 4 years ago when JR was Ducking Pac like a hernia gone bad was that the accusations were insulting to Pac.

forget that needle talk , all that that JR brought up yall picked up on it, but it was and IS at the LEVEL of the GUTTER

Yall need to stand up and forget all the demands

PAC is COMING and Thunder is coming with Lightning in his fists !!!!!

And where is the evidence against jmm? You and other pac fans screamed from the roof tops for jmm to be tested. There were rampant demands for random testing in the next fight. Theyeven cclaimed jmm's physical appearance proved he was on something. Even though there was no difference between the 2 fighters. Pac fans repeated everything floyd said about pac against jmm. If all is true then if this guy is guilty because of x, y, z. Then that guy is guilty because of x, y and z. Be honest.

[mrjoeblive]

justin fortune isn't an expert steroid chemist or a infamous former supplier of peds....he allegedly used peds when he was training as a power lifter years ago back in australia....and there is VADA testing for this fight....so you're an idiot...

Soggy, besides victor conte who would you consider a formidable supplier of peds. Im just curious.

[radiotracer]

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yup....against another opponent out of his weight class...

btw-if Pac merely "scoffed" at the drug testing,then why did he want cut offs and to know specific times he would be tested....uh oh!

Your muscles need oxygen and your body transfers oxygen through your blood. Manny believes that if he loses blood by getting blood drawn close to the fight it will weaken him. The human body will regenerate blood if given enough time. This is a scientific fact.

[mrjoeblive]

did pac hire a known expert steroid chemist and as a result showed a big improvement in punching power and physique at 39/40 years old??

Jmm did not display a big improvement in punching power. He hit pac repeatedly with the right. Lefties have always been susceptible to the straight right. And pac didn't even see the ko shot. And jmm's trainer is no more a steroid chemist than fortune.

[mrjoeblive]

is justin fortune a supplier of peds?? is he a steroid chemist?? if he is all these things then why would he work with pac while VADA testing is going on?

You didn't answer my question. Im not accusing pac of using fortune to obtain peds. I am simply wondering who would consider a ped chemist besides jmm's trainer.

[Fetta]

The same Justin Fortune who was involved with PEDs, yet Rios and Marquez were getting criticized for Heredia ...lol@ the irony.

That's already getting spun by his fans.

[radiotracer]

Somehow, after asking for randomized testing, Pac and HIS clan couldn't keep the stories of excuses straight.

Don't you think Floyd's team REALLY believed that Pac has been a PED abuser? Don't you think that those close within boxing circles hear whispers that we don't? Don't you think it aroused even more su****ion when Pac refused the testing, asked for cut offs and wanted to know the days they would be tested?

Instead of blaming one side-look at all angles. If Floyd was truly scared of Pac I tend to doubt he would have personally called Manny up and offered him a career high payday to fight him....of course you will just say it was posturing-it never ends.

Manny sued Floyd and De La Hoya for making those statements and Manny won in court. By judges order they could not disclose the specifics in public but it was a victory for Pac. Why do you think those two stopped accusing him of ped use.

[mrjoeblive]

lets not even talk about the KO, okay? lets look at the knockdown....marquez landed flush right hands, left hands, left hooks, right hooks, uppercuts..you name them, marquez landed them all in the 1st and 2nd fight...126 and 130..marquez's best weights ..and marquez being in his prime....but all of a sudden after hiring a KNOWN expert steroid chemist at 39 years old he develops the punching power to finally put pac on his ass with the same shots he was landing in the first two fights....and you're not su****ious at all??? if you're not the least bit su****ious then i see no reason to debate you on this further....

Ok...then lets talk frankly. There was rampant su****ion that pac was using peds in the first 2 fights. He floored jmm with relative ease. But there has been a noticeable power outage from pac as of late. So if you are going to look a jmm's suspected power improvement, you have to look at pacs recent power outage. Fair? And dont forget all the things you say about jmm are the exact same things floyd said about pac. And you guys said he was dead wrong.now you are saing those things about jmm. Whats the difference? Im not looking for a ped debate that has been done a million times. I want to knowfrom pac fans why was it wrong for floyd to make those accusations. But its ok for you guys to make the same accusations against jmm?