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  • #41
    “During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he
    had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was
    training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home
    country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based
    on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that
    (he) had used PEDs.”

    Roach then told the reporter, “I think had one other fighter on steroids … Justin Fortune. I know that he’d been there before.”


    and now he's back in camp? hmmmmmmm

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    • #42
      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
      The pac gobblers really have had to believe the dumbest crap over the last 4 years or so. The funny thing is, it is Roch, Arum and the rest of Team Pac that have been making them believe all this ****** crap all along. Playing on people's naivety.
      I still remember when Roach was saying he didn't know what a steroid was when asked if he thought Manny was on any...yet he later admitted to knowing that both Fortune and Toney (of course JCC was on diaretics) were on some....team Pac are the most full of crap liars ever. They play the media and their fans like fiddles.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by SoggyLungs
        i highly doubt it...a fighter's chin is usually the last thing to go...pac started showing a decline in other areas, but his chin still looked good..if pac showed a severe decline in his chin then it would have been noticeable before the 4th marquez fight...

        and sure as hell a 39 year old wouldn't be the one to expose pac's declining punch resistance...
        And I thought it was said POWER was the last thing a fighter loses. Usually speed to avoid a punch and the durability to absorb one goes before the ability to throw one in anger.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
          Why are yall always crying about Pac and PED's ? Thats as dumb as a box of rocks !!!

          The reason Pac scoffed at take tests back 4 years ago when JR was Ducking Pac like a hernia gone bad was that the accusations were insulting to Pac.

          forget that needle talk , all that that JR brought up yall picked up on it, but it was and IS at the LEVEL of the GUTTER

          Yall need to stand up and forget all the demands

          PAC is COMING and Thunder is coming with Lightning in his fists !!!!!
          Then you better not accuse marquez

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          • #45
            Originally posted by SoggyLungs
            i highly doubt it...a fighter's chin is usually the last thing to go...pac started showing a decline in other areas, but his chin still looked good..if pac showed a severe decline in his chin then it would have been noticeable before the 4th marquez fight...

            and sure as hell a 39 year old wouldn't be the one to expose pac's declining punch resistance...
            Yeah his chin looked great, he got knocked down once then got knocked out cold. Just because Marquez knocked him out doesn't mean he was dirty, your argument is weak. Nobody knows when time will catch up to a fighter, if they did most fighters would retire before they started declining. This is a pointless debate anyway, you keep saying "but Marquez is 39" but you refuse to acknowledge the FACT that Pacquiao ran face first into the ko punch which obviously made some difference in how the fight ended.

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            • #46
              Wow didn't expect this.

              He's sorta bad mouthed Manny and Freddie the last 2-3 yrs. I guess that check shuts everyone up.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by titan m View Post
                Well don't forget that Marquez agreed to testing BEFORE the 4th fight but they didn't want it, he didn't have to wait until later to agree so to refuse it then accuse him after the fight is beyond ridiculous.
                pee drinker i'll do anything to win marquez told you that he agreed when it was probably never brought up to do vada testing. same rules applied as their three previous fights. i dont think manny will make the same mistake again.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by hhs661 View Post
                  “During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he
                  had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was
                  training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home
                  country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based
                  on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that
                  (he) had used PEDs.”

                  Roach then told the reporter, “I think had one other fighter on steroids … Justin Fortune. I know that he’d been there before.”


                  and now he's back in camp? hmmmmmmm
                  where do you get these silly quotes from?

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                  • #49
                    If you look at the Marquez Pacquiao 3 fight, Marquez landed that same feint to the body to overhand right shot he did in round 3 of the 4th fight, and Pacquiao took it like a champ in the 3rd fight.
                    Its amazing how much more powerful Marquez became in that 4th fight, not by combinations but just by one punch KO power.
                    Marquez also landed a similar KO shot from the 4th fight in round 6, in the 3rd fight that rocked Pacquiao back, but did not make him go down or out.

                    I believe that the HEAVY weight training did in fact help Marquez to become stronger. Look he was doing heavy weight like 30 pounds i saw in high reps very fast. For more than a year, he was training just for Pacquiao and nobody else. Marquez has never cheated, not even on his wife like Manny lol (sorry Manny). I think his victory was due to his obsession to beat Pac and hard and heavy weight training

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                      lets not even talk about the KO, okay? lets look at the knockdown....marquez landed flush right hands, left hands, left hooks, right hooks, uppercuts..you name them, marquez landed them all in the 1st and 2nd fight...126 and 130..marquez's best weights ..and marquez being in his prime....but all of a sudden after hiring a KNOWN expert steroid chemist at 39 years old he develops the punching power to finally put pac on his ass with the same shots he was landing in the first two fights....and you're not su****ious at all??? if you're not the least bit su****ious then i see no reason to debate you on this further....
                      Marquez didn't drop Manny in the 3rd fight and he had Memo in his corner so what is your excuse for that? Marquez has NEVER been KO'd and Pacquiao has. Why is it so hard to believe with the right game plan that Pacquiao can be dropped/KO'd? Wasn't Marquez practicing that same punch in sparring? They have it on video. Wouldn't steroids make him more durable but he got dropped and his nose busted too. Also, both could have been juicing for all we know. Fact is and still remains that Pacquiao is the one who has gone on record to make excuses for taking random blood tests up until Marquez drilled his ass. Where was your su****ion when Manny turned down the fight with Mayweather because of random drug testing?

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