Don't tell me Ward still wants Chavez????

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  • mrpain81
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    #11
    Fight will only happen if Arum can get Ward, if not fuggetabouit.

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    • Weebler I
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      #12
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Did he look dead at 152?
      He looked outclassed, same as Dawson.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Weebler I
        He looked outclassed, same as Dawson.
        I suppose they both got outclassed so they fall under the same umbrella then?

        Dawson was moving down 6 lbs and an entire division that he hadn't been at in 6 years.

        Canelo was moving down a lb and a half to a weight he'd been lower than 2 years prior.

        Dawson was completely dead and falling over from glancing blows against a guy who doesn't hit hard.

        Canelo looked strong and energetic even as late as the 11th, probably being his most energetic round.

        That's the difference. That you would think would be obvious.

        Another example;

        Oscar - Dead at 147, moving down to a division he hadn't been at in a decade.

        Cotto - Not dead at 145, moving down a pound.

        I suppose both were outclassed so they're under the same umbrella Although Oscar wasn't dead at 147 to you either
        Last edited by IronDanHamza; 09-29-2013, 12:11 AM.

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        • boxer2k5
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          #14
          ward deserves a good pay day after he dominated his division. Ward will get paid 2 to 3 times what vera was paid. and he will destroy chavez. Chavez lose to every top super middle.

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            #15
            Originally posted by VatoMulatto
            Ward is an elite worldclass fighter. We want to see him against the very best next year. Nobody and I really mean NOBODY wants Ward vs Chavez in 2014. I understand its about the money for Ward....but they can't really make this fight happen.
            A huge purse and an easy win for Ward? Hell yes he wants the fight

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              #16
              Ward was salivating at the idea of fighting Chavez, it was quite sad. First he targeted a drunken loser in Pavlik coming out of rehab and now he's trying to go after fatboy Chavez coming off a gift?

              I hope Rodriguez gives him a rude awakening.

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              • r__mutt
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                #17
                With Ward's inability to find an opponent recently, you bet your ass he still wants fatboy Chavez. He brings the fans, the money, and seems like a credible opponent to anyone who doesn't know jack ****.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Although Oscar wasn't dead at 147 to you either
                  Correct, like most of (all of?) Pacquiao's bigger opponents he looked slow and outclassed in comparison to him. That wasn't going to change no matter what weight they were at.

                  Those that come with the weight-drained stuff usually have agendas. Canelo will come with it too about the Floyd fight ahead of his next fight. Just watch.

                  As an aside, Canelo won the late rounds because Floyd was coasting, not because he was such great condition. Dawson moved back up to 175 and fared worse getting KO'd in 1.

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                    #19
                    Chavez would be big money and easy work. Why wouldn't Ward still want that?

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Weebler I
                      Correct, like most of (all of?) Pacquiao's bigger opponents he looked slow and outclassed in comparison to him. That wasn't going to change no matter what weight they were at.

                      Those that come with the weight-drained stuff usually have agendas. Canelo will come with it too about the Floyd fight ahead of his next fight. Just watch.

                      As an aside, Canelo won the late rounds because Floyd was coasting, not because he was such great condition. Dawson moved back up to 175 and fared worse getting KO'd in 1.
                      They might have looked slow compared to him (Cotto, Clottey, Margarito etc) but they didn't look dead like Oscar clearly was and they weren't moving down to a division they hadn't been at in a decade like Oscar was either. They all look slow and got outclassed therefore that means they all must have been healthy? Despite the fact that Oscar hadn't been at 147 in a decade and looked like a cancer patient.

                      It doesn't matter if Floyd was coasting or not he still had his most energetic round late in the fight and was energetic all the way though and throwing combinations as much as Mayweather would allow him when he trapped him on the ropes. That's not the traits of a drained fighter which is to be expected when they're moving down a total of 1.5 lbs.

                      The traits of a drained fighter is knocked down by fighters with little power multiple times whilst throwing an incredibely low amount of punchs Movin.g down to a division you haven't been at in 6 years no less.

                      Common sense seems to elude you.

                      People that come with weight drained stuff don't have agendas, they have functioning eyes.

                      It's not difficult;

                      Canelo - Moving down 1.5 lbs, to a weight they'd been at in recent years looked strong - Not drained.

                      Cotto - moving down 1 lb, to a weight they'd been at in recent years, looked strong - Not drained

                      Oscar- Moving down 6 lbs to a weight he hadn't been as low as in 10 years, looked like he was terminally ill - Dead.

                      Dawson - Moving down 6 lbs to a weight he hadn't been as low as in 6 years, was falling over multiple times to a guy who hasn't dropped anyone in years - Dead.

                      Does this function?

                      The fact Dawson got caught cold by a big puncher in his next fight some how equals to him not being dead at 168?

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