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Originally posted by mrpain81 View PostLike I said Glen Johnson is tough as nails and gives everybody a tough fight, A lot of people thought Johnson beat Dawson just 9 months before fighting Cloud.
We're talking about the same Dawson who was on P4P lists and was getting praised as the next great American fighter.
Campillo was also a fighter who was a tough out for anybody until he himself probably got tired of getting robbed and has become a broken fighter.
Hopkins? Who the fooks looks great against Hopkins win lose or draw?
The issue isn't whether Cloud is losing or struggling against these fighters you are trying to make out to be a walk in the park for anybody. Cloud is a broken fighter now, he's not the same guy who was walking down fighters and letting his hands go, he's a shell of his former self and looks shot at 31.
Don King has a history of signing fighters and destroying their careers now, he puts them on the shelf and the guys slowly but surely turn into shit. It's a pretty well known fact singing with Don King now is career suicide.
You have to be pretty blind to not see how Cloud has lost that intensity and fire the last year years while under king, it's one thing to always have been a bum and get knocked out when you move up but the guy isn't even trying anymore. It's really night and day.
It's really simple, "Beasts" don't have 0 impressive KO's on their resume.
"Beasts" don't struggle with the fighters Cloud has.
When did he actually sign with Don King? Was it before he struggled with the great Yusuf Mack or before?
You can blame it on Don King for magically turning Cloud from the bum killing Beast into the terrible fighter his as soon as Ink touched the paper but the reality is he is and always has been pure garbage.
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Bellew in November, Kovalev on the undercard, that big fight in 2014! Can't wait, Montreal will be on fireeee!!!! Adonis!!!
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Cloud looked awful tonight. Stevenson thoroughly and totally kicked his ass. Great performance by him. He showed another dimension we didn't know he had by boxing and using his legs to make Cloud look clueless in the ring. Stevenson-Kovalev needs to happen next HBO. Make it happen!
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostI don't know but i did not expect him to look this bad, it was almost shocking
Only thing that surprised me was even though I knew Cloud was beyond terrible was that only he can make Stevenson look like Pernell Whitaker.
I don't see how it's even possible to not see that Cloud is another Jeff Lacy just worse.
Their career's have unfolded exactly the same.
Fight unranked bums - Amazing, KO artists
Fight decent fringe contenders- Struggle, look very underwhelming
Fight top level fighters - Lose every round.
Then when they get dominated when they step up in class they become "shot".
Maybe they have just always been terrible?
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostDawson wasn't a "Beast" either and has proven so.
It's really simple, "Beasts" don't have 0 impressive KO's on their resume.
"Beasts" don't struggle with the fighters Cloud has.
When did he actually sign with Don King? Was it before he struggled with the great Yusuf Mack or before?
You can blame it on Don King for magically turning Cloud from the bum killing Beast into the terrible fighter his as soon as Ink touched the paper but the reality is he is and always has been pure garbage.
And if you haven't noticed the downward trajectory Cloud has taken under King you're either very biased against Trout, you're trolling, or you haven't been paying attention.
Regardless, I guess we agree to disagree.
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Cloud is the only boxer I've ever seen to consistently miss his opponent by 6-8ft, people in the back row was ducking.
What was the commentary about? Repeated multiple times ''Clouds not doing a lot wrong'' I couldn't see anything he was doing right.
He may as well of come to the ring with 'Everlast' across his forehead.
Cloud is awful. Hes always ******. He was getting outboxed thoroughly by Yusaf Mack until he got a Get out of jail free card. Clinton Woods was ancient & at the very tale end of his career and he gave Cloud all he could handle.
Cloud is rubbish, hes always been rubbish & always will be.
Just about anybody with movement clowns him.
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Originally posted by mrpain81 View PostHe signed in 2010 after the Clinton Woods fight.
And if you haven't noticed the downward trajectory Cloud has taken under King you're either very biased against Trout, you're trolling, or you haven't been paying attention.
Regardless, I guess we agree to disagree.
You don't think there's any coincidence that he looked amazing when he was knocking out unranked bums and washed up fighters who haven't been relevant since 2003 to looking terrible when he steps up in class?
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Originally posted by dan_cov View PostCloud is the only boxer I've ever seen to consistently miss his opponent by 6-8ft, people in the back row was ducking.
What was the commentary about? Repeated multiple times ''Clouds not doing a lot wrong'' I couldn't see anything he was doing right.
He may as well of come to the ring with 'Everlast' across his forehead.
Cloud is awful. Hes always ******. He was getting outboxed thoroughly by Yusaf Mack until he got a Get out of jail free card. Clinton Woods was ancient & at the very tale end of his career and he gave Cloud all he could handle.
Cloud is rubbish, hes always been rubbish & always will be.
Just about anybody with movement clowns him.
Going into that fight I had money on Cloud by KO. Seems as obvious as anything. I knew Cloud's power was vastly overrated but I mean, Mack's chin is literally made out of glass. When he tries on Hat's in shops he get's a skanky leg. That's how bad his chin in and overall durability. Yet Cloud not only struggles with him but takes him 8 rounds to drop him.
Literally the only fighter he's knocked out that isn't a complete and utter bum or washed up is Yusuf MackLiterally.
Yet this fighter was a "Beast".
Cloud is honestly one of the worst "Champions" I've ever seen in my lifetime. He's worse than Lacy and off the top of my head everyone I've seen. That dates back to 1970.
I think D-MAC might even beat him
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostYusuf Mack's chin makes Amir Khan's chin look like Jake Lamotta.
Going into that fight I had money on Cloud by KO. Seems as obvious as anything. I knew Cloud's power was vastly overrated but I mean, Mack's chin is literally made out of glass. When he tries on Hat's in shops he get's a skanky leg. That's how bad his chin in and overall durability. Yet Cloud not only struggles with him but takes him 8 rounds to drop him.
Literally the only fighter he's knocked out that isn't a complete and utter bum or washed up is Yusuf MackLiterally.
Yet this fighter was a "Beast".
Cloud is honestly one of the worst "Champions" I've ever seen in my lifetime. He's worse than Lacy and off the top of my head everyone I've seen. That dates back to 1970.
I think D-MAC might even beat him
I felt Stevenson would get him out of there but never did I think even Mr Cloud could make Stevenson look that good!
He made Adonis Stevenson look almost like a big version of Terrance Crawford, almost Rigondeaux esque at times.
Haha as much as we joke about D-Mac I genuinely do think he would clown CloudWe need to push for this fight! Pretty certain D-Mac schools him actually.
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