Is Floyd This Only Boxer To Have Accomplish This...? (Serious Question)

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ekscape
    hmmm, I don't even think an 'lineal' or 'ring' title existed in Armstrong's era, there was only one belt; so guess my question is more of the modern era of boxing, last 30 years or so...
    The "Lineage" just traces back to the first Champion.

    "Lineal" titles didn't exist then because there was only one title.

    That's effectively all the "Lineage" is.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 09-24-2013, 07:23 PM.

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    • KJB
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      #12
      Originally posted by Ekscape
      mmmm idk about that, I think you have to beat atleast the #1 and #2 people at the weight class to be the lineal champ, just cause you move up or move down to beat the undisputed champ does that make you it
      Yes, it absolutely does. How can a boxing fan not know this?

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        #13
        Armstrong is special because they didn't have junior divisions. He was lineal champion at featherweight, lightweight and welterweight at the same time. That's insane if you sit down and think about it.

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          #14
          Originally posted by PBP
          Armstrong is special because they didn't have junior divisions. He was lineal champion at featherweight, lightweight and welterweight at the same time. That's insane if you sit down and think about it.
          And was given a dubious draw while fighting for the middleweight title while holding these other titles.

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            #15
            Nope. SRL did it in 81 against Kalule before fighting Hearns.... linear at 147 and 154

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ekscape
              Floyd is the undisputed/lineal champion of both 147 and 154, i'm trying to think of who else has accomplished this... I feel I have a pretty good knowledge of boxing, my history is a little weak, anyone wanna enlighten me? I think it's pretty significant
              Quite a few people. Hank Armstrong and SRR are two that come immediately to mind.

              In days gone by there were no belts - if you were the champion you were the champion (undisputed and linear). The term lineal only came up because of the number of belts and the number of people calling themselves champions.

              Second this glorified catch weight called Super Welterweight (154) didn't exist until the early 1960s.

              SRR was welterweight champion and middle weight champion. Henry Armstrong was Featherweight, Lightweight and Welterweight champion. Both were undisputed. Both lineal.

              Others that come to mind are Bob Fitzsimmons, Gene Tunney, Barney Ross.

              Oh Wilfred Benetez, Roberto Duran, SRL and others.

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                #17
                Henry Armstrong did it in 3 divisions at the same time when there was only one undisputed champ. That's why I want Floyd to either face Garcia at 140 or Martinez for the MW lineal title. 3 belts, 3 divisions, AT THE SAME DAMN TIME!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  Joe Calzaghe.

                  Lineal at 168. Beat Hopkins to become lineal at 175.
                  Hopkins wasnt lineal at 175 then..just Ring champ

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ekscape
                    hmmm, I don't even think an 'lineal' or 'ring' title existed in Armstrong's era, there was only one belt; so guess my question is more of the modern era of boxing, last 30 years or so...
                    Lineal existed sine the beginning of boxing..it is THE TRUE AND REAL TITLE AND CAN BE TRACED TO THE BEGINNING OF BOXING

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ekscape
                      hmmm, I don't even think an 'lineal' or 'ring' title existed in Armstrong's era, there was only one belt; so guess my question is more of the modern era of boxing, last 30 years or so...
                      Lineal existed since the beginning of boxing..it is THE TRUE AND REAL TITLE AND CAN BE TRACED TO THE BEGINNING OF BOXING

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