i don't think jmm is juicing but i was shocked when he knocked manny down that one shocked me more than the ko actually.
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Why do posters act like Jmm just got ko power? HE HAS MORE KO'S THEN MANNY!!
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Originally posted by illmaticfighter View Posti don't think jmm is juicing but i was shocked when he knocked manny down that one shocked me more than the ko actually.
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I have followed JMM since the late 90's and he has never shown power like that before. All of the sudden he is pushing 40 and he is laying people out flat? Come on son.....smh.
It's not even the KO punch that raised my eyebrows but the shot earlier in the fight that dropped Manny. When I saw that I knew JMM was on something.
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Originally posted by Brother Khalid View PostI have followed JMM since the late 90's and he has never shown power like that before. All of the sudden he is pushing 40 and he is laying people out flat? Come on son.....smh.
It's not even the KO punch that raised my eyebrows but the shot earlier in the fight that dropped Manny. When I saw that I knew JMM was on something.
steroids won't make you hit harder.... i can guarantee you that...
there's two things that could have happened....
that ko was a result of manny's exuberance and the the collision with force of marquez throwing the perfectly timed shot....
pacquaio had both feet off the ground.... at the point of impact.... that's a ko against anyone....
the more suspect knock down was the overhand right.... because marquez had landed similar punches in their previous bouts and not moved manny...
but the explanation for that is.... weight.... marquez outweighed manny on the official scales.... and in their previous bouts manny had always weighed more.... its the laws of physics.
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Originally posted by SoggyLungssasakul was out for like a good few seconds before trying to beat the 10 count only to fall back down...
point is pac has shown in the past to knockdown and stop good/top fighters with a single punch...what top fighter has marquez knocked down from a single punch and that wasn't more the result of accumulation??
also marquez fought pac TWICE in his prime but could not score one knockdown ..and he landed some clean hard shots...but all of a sudden at 39 years old and after working with a sterodi chemist for less than a year he has the power to knock down pac effortlessly with the same shots he was landing in their first fight??
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It's just an excuse for all the *******s in denial. It was a perfect punch plain and simple. Not to mention Manny made it easy for him by squaring up with his chin up in the air. If Marquez had came in at 135 he still would've knocked Pacquiao out with that punch.
I just think its funny how the same people that accuse JMM of juicing were the same one defending Manny when people stated accusing him of using peds.
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View PostHe might very well be juicing, but it isn't 100% fact like some people are saying. I suspect most fighters that perform at an elite level are probably juicing or have juiced, but to defend one and bash another when they both have similar signs and both have red flags is hypocritical to me.
Its ironic after all the *****ing about floyd and the tests...manny is now requesting tests
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Originally posted by SoggyLungsmarquez outweighed pac by like 2 lbs on fight night...cotto, clottey, margarito, mosley all outweighed pac by more than 10lbs on fight night...and each guy landed big shots (i.e. cotto landed a big left hand and a huge uppercut..a 160+ mosley landed a stiff right hand, margarito and clottey landed their share of uppercuts)...
and pac only outweighed marquez by 4 lbs in their 2nd fight...
and pac's feet were completely off the canvas when marquez landed this huge left hook in their 2nd fight..
you need to understand this....
those guys who outweighed, also don't know pacquiao like marquez does....
his style has always been effective against pacquiao....
the difference had always been.... pacquiao was bigger than marquez.... now they're the same size.... so marquez could impose himself more firmly....
if it was 'steroids' that was making the difference.... than marquez would have stopped him in their 3rd fight.
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Originally posted by Brother Khalid View PostI have followed JMM since the late 90's and he has never shown power like that before. All of the sudden he is pushing 40 and he is laying people out flat? Come on son.....smh.
It's not even the KO punch that raised my eyebrows but the shot earlier in the fight that dropped Manny. When I saw that I knew JMM was on something.
Manny does a lot wrong...just paid the price
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