I think Floyd really wants to retire as the greatest ever

[hugh grant]

He won't be known as the best ever, but he'll be considered an ATG. I know it's been said a billion times on here before, but he needed that Pacquiao fight back in 2008/2009 to see who truly was the greatest of this era. Floyd will definitely be in all top 50 lists years from now, but I don't think many would even put him in the top 15. He needed that Pacquiao win when it mattered the most.

He did need Pac real bad, but he didn't realize just how much at the time.
But he can still help himself that Pac scenario is gone and done.

He should be able to fight Sergio at 160 and GGG as people don't put any pressure on Floyd to ko anyone.
Floyd can just defend as much as he likes and win rounds by throwing 10 punches a round, and landing 7 of them limiting the danger he puts himself in as much as possible. Skills pay bills. FLoyds style lends itself well to moving up weight, and Pacs doesn't yet Pac has won titles in more divisions.?
Floyd needs to get a move on.

[illmaticfighter]

notice how they break down floyd's resume with excuses but for pacquaio they never do it, so let's be consistent the only win's manny have that are impressive is

barrera and marquez

every other one involves weight drained or past prime or past koed fighters definitely not a top 30 atg with just those two wins.

[BIG GUNZ]

He did need Pac real bad, but he didn't realize just how much at the time.
But he can still help himself that Pac scenario is gone and done.

He should be able to fight Sergio at 160 and GGG as people don't put any pressure on Floyd to ko anyone.
Floyd can just defend as much as he likes and win rounds by throwing 10 punches a round, and landing 7 of them limiting the danger he puts himself in as much as possible. Skills pay bills. FLoyds style lends itself well to moving up weight, and Pacs doesn't yet Pac has won titles in more divisions.?
Floyd needs to get a move on.

Well the Sergio fight should have happened a year or two ago when Sergio was the 3rd best P4P fighter behind just Mayweather & Pacquiao. Now he's injury prone & will be 39 years old by the time he could even fight again. If Floyd fights him now & beats him, everyone will just say he beat a way past his prime Martinez. Floyd had his chance to fight him, but he just completely ignored it when Martinez was calling him out.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Ive seen videos of SRR robinson and ya thats not gonna happen.

Most say SRR's prime was before video so thats just a myth entirely. So how can you really say that he beats floyd

I've also seen Armstrong's fights on youtube. The eye test tells me he brutalizes Armstrong in 2 rounds like Hatton.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

When it's all said and done history will be very kind to Floyd. He will go down as the best of this era and rated as a very high ATG. He's just hated right now

If he is vilified now for ducking Pacquiao magnify that by at least 10x over and you will have an idea how much Pacquiao leaves Mayweather behind any ATG ranking.

[dynomyte1444]

the fact is floyd will be more remembered first as a ducker and then a distant second his undefeated record.

he accomplished the 2nd due to his team business skills of matching him with cherry picked opponents. it really goes hand in hand.

no that will be forgotten. Only names and the aura that surrounds Floyd as one of the best of all time. When you have greats now like Bhop saying he is top 3

You really think in 20 yrs that will change into he ducks people. Floyd will be remember for being the first to put off a high profile fight for testing that is taking over this sport by storm. Even mannyis being tested his next fight. He will be remember for having one of if not the best defense ever.

[dynomyte1444]

If he is vilified now for ducking Pacquiao magnify that by at least 10x over and you will have an idea how much Pacquiao leaves Mayweather behind any ATG ranking.

ducking manny is a personal opinion. I think people have warmed up to the idea that it wasnt floyd and manny hurt himself by taking a test with rios. Many people have said why can you take a test now but not when Floyd wanted you to

[shade darkar]

dont kid yourself, he is just in it for the money.

[Humean]

Like all fighters it is a question of money. If Mayweather goes to middleweight then it is because a lot more money can be made from fighting Martinez then the alternatives. How else will Mayweather be able to maintain his ridiculously lavish lifestyle?

[Jc8804]

Thats right floyd fans.

Silenced.


The roy jones comment is concrete.
Dont ever say ATG cant move up vs a bigger guy.

Roy jones jr did it