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  • Call For Immediate Rematch - Garcia vs Matthysse

    First of all, I have always been a big Danny Garcia fan (I have always considered him underrated, and I picked him to KTFO Khan), and I am also a big fan of Lucas Matthysse. I have been adamantly calling for Danny to get his shot v FMJ, on more than one thread since his victory. I was happy for Team Garcia in victory, and felt that Matthysse put up a valiant effort that fell just short, thanks to Danny skills mixed in with the swing of fortune.

    Then I went back and studied the fight. As a result I am calling for an immediate rematch. I hope that all reading this will go back and study the fight and decide for yourselves.

    Originally, I had Danny winning by 114-113, on the strength of a two point 11th round as a result of the KD:

    1. 10-9 Danny
    2. 9-10 Lucas
    3. 10-9 Danny
    4. 10-9 Danny
    5. 9-10 Lucas
    6. 9-10 Lucas
    7. 9-10 Lucas
    8. 10-9 Danny
    9. 10-9 Danny
    10. 9-10 Lucas
    11. 10-8 Danny
    12. 9-10 Lucas

    Total = 114-113 Garcia

    After reviewng / studying the fight, I feel that it was a draw, because the 11th should have been 10-9 (not 10-8) Danny. I am not basing my call for a rematch on the fact that this was an extremely close fight, but rather on the following:

    1. The referee was guilty of borderline criminal negligence for his failure to penalize Garcia earlier for his uncountable low blows. There should have been a point taken away no later than the 4th round, and Danny should possibly have been DQed for his actions, that most certainly effected his competitor's performance.

    I am a big Mares fan, but I felt his actions in Agbeko I were terrible and obviously a conscious strategy. There was an uproar after that fight, and Mares faced deserved criticism.

    Danny Garcia's performance was planned strategy that reached at least as bad a level as Mares' but in my opinion surpassed it. Team Garcia went in with the plan to hit Matthysse low and often, especially directly after being tagged. Danny consciously attacked Matthysse's lower hips, with special emphasis / focus on the lower right hip.

    The referee is to blame and he should be penalized for his performance.

    There were also several direct shots to the groin area. The only penalty dished out to Garcia was similar to NFL referees who allow holding by one team on every play, until the game is out of reach, in order to give a false sense of fairness.

    The low blows were completely over the line, from the 2nd round on. There should be an immediate rematch for this reason alone.

    2. The 11th round KD was completely illegitimate. It was the result of an obvious pull behind the head by Danny that spun Matthysse into the ropes and entangled him. The ref allowed Danny to continue punching while Matthysse was entangled. It was not close. It was absolutely atrocious refereeing.

    Without that KD it is a 10-8 round (at least) for Matthysse. As it was, the entire round was completely dominated by Lucas, with the exception of the obviously illegitimate KD. Therefore I scored it 10-9 for Danny, though it should have been 10-8 for Lucas.

    Originally, I scored it 10-8, as I believe most did.

    Conclusion; with decent refereeing this fight would have had a much different outcome on the surface / obviously.

    1. Lucas would not have had to absorb the ridiculous amount of low blows that under the best of circumstances would effect performance on the mobility and power levels.

    2. The early point deduction would have made Team Garcia alter their game plan or face DQ. That does not mean that Matthysse necessarily would have won, just that we would have witnessed a fair contest.

    3. This was worse than Mares v Agbeko I, and in that case an immediate rematch was demanded and took place.

    Maybe the same thing would happen as did in Mares v Agbeko II; Danny would be forced to win legitimately and put on a dominant performance. The fact is that ALL of the evidence is there for anyone who is objective to come to the conclusion that Lucas Matthysse deserves an immediate rematch.

  • #2
    Lets not ignore the facts that Lucas did some rabbit puching which he regulary does. Some of those low blows were from the result of Lucas pulling Garcia's head down.

    Neither guy complained because they knew that they were in a fight. Never heard Lucas or anybody in the camp complain about the knockdown.

    That knockdown was a chain of events that started with a right to the head, body blows, etc. it just wasn't that he got spun around into the ropes.

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    • #3
      No rematch, crybaby.

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      • #4


        Lucas got his ass beat and the knockdown was legit.. he didn't pull his head down it was a slow missed shot

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        • #5
          danny won fair and square but it was close and lucas had some really bad look in that fight with the eye and getting caught up in the ropes.

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          • #6
            No, but I'd like to see them go at it again in the future. It's time for Danny to move up. He stated that before the fight. I would like to see him against the Alezander/Khan winner or against Mayweather. Honestly, both guys need to be making their way up to 147. That's where the action is.

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            • #7
              because he won, I will respect whatever road Garcia chooses. He can fight a rematch with Mattysse, Judah, or Khan. He can move up and accept a Floyd fight if he gets the offer. Or he could fight his WBC #1 rated contender (someone named Viktor Postol). Maybe even a strange challenge like Paul Spadafora (ranked 8th). What I'm saying is that Garcia shouldn't feel obligated to rematch Mattysse

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              • #8
                Hope there is but it will probably be down the line

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                • #9
                  just being honest

                  dat round where matthysee got knocked down should of been a 10-9 round cause matt was winning dat round.....he did get pulled into the ropes where he got tangled wit the ropes and was being hit while his back was turned....and it was some low blows...I have 2 agree just watched the fight again....Garcia won a very close fight would love 2 see a rematch...lucas eye was the difference in this fight

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                  • #10
                    They are both good fighters I just like Matthysse much better as a person. I would love to see a rematch and I think he would have won if not for the bad eye. Let's face reality. There will be no rematch anytime soon no matter how bad some people want it. Garcia is in the running for a shot at Mayweather and he won't risk a dangerous rematch with Matthysse.

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