Where do you have Joe Calzaghe at on your ATG list?

[Larry the boss]

People love to scream Hopkins and Roy were old...Hell Joe was 36-37 when he fought them

[James_Toney]

if you think calzaghe beat b-hop.... you don't know **** about boxing.

[James_Toney]

People love to scream Hopkins and Roy were old...Hell Joe was 36-37 when he fought them

it's not 'age'....

it's about 'ring age'....

so the level of opponents you've fought..... and how long you've been operating at that level.... that's what makes you 'old'....

roy after ruiz..... isn't roy anymore....

as far as b-hop.... one he was old, way older than calzaghe....

two.... he was fighting two weights above where he rose to prominence....

and three.... he schooled calzaghe.

[ShamrockXpress]

Was Ottke ever"lineal champ?did he move up and beat an ATG for the Ring title??and dont yell Hopkins was shot because he went on to become linela and even win the IBF after that..Joe was no damn title holder HE WAS THE DAMN CHAMP AT 168..never tested himself??HE BEAT EVERONE AT 168 THEN BEAT THE BEST FIGHTER AT 175

He never beat ottke, 34-0 baby. Hiding in Wales with his frank warren appointed WBO title, instead of fighting THE MAN, THE IBF & WBA champ, Sven 'one punch ko' Ottke.

[gmc_rfc_06]

I don't even think about Calzaghe when I'm thinking of the greats.

[Grimmer]

People love to scream Hopkins and Roy were old...Hell Joe was 36-37 when he fought them

Danny Green KO'd Roy in the first round just a year after Joe went 12 rounds with Roy.

Danny Green > Joe Calzaghe.

[Grimgash]

ATG? No... let's be real he didn't do much to deserve it. His best win is a very old B-Hop who was a few weight classes above his best. He is without a doubt one of the best at 168 all time...though with it being a newer division with little history isn't really that impressive.

He had a lot of options and fighters to test himself against and he didn't, he could've moved up and fought tougher guys too if he didn't wanna fight the top guys at 168....he didn't. He could've been great but did nothing to call for him being an ATG because he just didn't care.

[Jc8804]

Joe and floyd dont fool me.

Ring age . Great words spoken

Floyd even faught guys with lots of ring age .
While he was kicking it on vacation , real fighters were fighting eachother
And wearing eachother out.

Cotto ,pac,margarito, shane, guys like that all faught eachother in a good era
Of 147, while floyd was hiding.

Well joe was hiding while roy and b hop and toney put in work
And caughnthat ring age. Some more then others.

If your undefeated , your probably didnt fight the best or everyone

[dan_cov]

I felt both B-Hop & Robin Reid beat him. I can't give him credit for those 'wins'
I haven't seen the Reid fight for some time but pretty sure I felt Reid comfortably won.

I give him credit for Kessler. That is a good win anyway you want to cut it.

Yeah hes 46-0 not exactly too difficult when you're fighting 98% of your fights in the U.K and awarded a stoppage victory everytime you land a shot.

I'm not joking when I say he has 20+ premature stoppage wins to his name.

He didn't fight the best, he ducked virtually every legitimate challenge out there. Pampered, Frank Warren creation. Cleverly was going the same way only he had the balls to take on a legitimate prime threat!

[SouthPawHitman]

Money Team is one of the best posters on this site. He actually understands boxing.

James Toney...LMAO Joe would have boxed the ears off his head.