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  • NEETzsche
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    #31
    it's nice to have an announcer who appreciates the art of boxing as well as the spectacle. american commentators usually seem extremely biased in favour of brawlers and punchers

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    • Frank Ducketts
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      #32
      Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
      Kinda rash to take one incident and lump Bernstein in with the rest of the rabble. He is by far one of the best to do it.
      Bernstein is good, but at times he can't even see what is landing. His scoring of rounds is also suspect at times. Paulie straightens him out. That isn't a bad thing. Fans want a boxers perspective, and the casual fans perspective.

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        #33
        Roy Jones Jr is also a superb announcer. Roy just gets caught up when he is doing a fight with Merchant. You can tell that at times he doesn't like Merchant, and has to correct him or let him know that you won't shine when I'm broadcasting a fight with you.

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        • fceeviper
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          #34
          I gotta agree here, I like his work behind the mic at Showtime.

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          • Syf
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            #35
            Paulie a good announcer.. The catch and shoot thing was very on point in The One undercard... Oh and how he noticed Floyd's secret is changing levels and looks. Very astuute announcer.

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              #36
              Originally posted by New England
              atlas, perhaps more than any of the others, is called upon to be subjective. the fights aren't always sufficient content for prime time TV. atlas has to talk about a fight between 150th ranked guys in the same tradition that maligniaggi has to talk about top 10 contenders and world champions. he talks more about flaws than skills because that's what he's looking at.

              he has to analyze to the point of minutae. you can't just cut away and not talk the way you can during a great fight between greats on HBO and showtime. as lampley said about the diaz - marquez fight after not talking for a minute and a half "why should fights like this even be scored?"



              atlas gives the same attention to detail in a four rounder between debuting fighters that he does a crossroads fight between former champions. lampley wouldn't even commit their names to memory. you're talking about completely different planets in terms of the product you're covering.
              I don't necessarily agree with that. Clearly there are discernible degrees of skill level of novice to elite level fighters but they are not in different "planets." I would say same ballpark.

              My biggest qualm with Atlas is, he dissects and over-analyzes the fights to death. I get it - he's trying to give an 'insider' perspective on the subtleties of the sport to the masses but sometimes you don't have talk every millisecond during the fight - let the fight speak for itself.

              As for his scoring, I don't know how you can defend him. With all his expert capabilities, it's surprising how awful he scores some fights.

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                #37
                In the one and only time I've actually competed, I did the catch and shoot thing against my opponent several times and he reacted the same way Matthysse did, throwing one punch then jumping out of range before the counter "shoot" came back...I love doing that because it sends a message to your opponent that you're not worried about their power and keeps you in position to strike back...so when Paulie started talking about how tough that was and the mental composure it takes, I took it as a compliment and felt pretty dam good about myself being able to do it despite not being a real fighter lol

                Thank you Mr. Malignaggi

                7:35 for a good example of what I am talking about.

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                • New England
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BostonGuy
                  I don't necessarily agree with that. Clearly there are discernible degrees of skill level of novice to elite level fighters but they are not in different "planets." I would say same ballpark.

                  My biggest qualm with Atlas is, he dissects and over-analyzes the fights to death. I get it - he's trying to give an 'insider' perspective on the subtleties of the sport to the masses but sometimes you don't have talk every millisecond during the fight - let the fight speak for itself.

                  As for his scoring, I don't know how you can defend him. With all his expert capabilities, it's surprising how awful he scores some fights.
                  for starters, it doesn't make sense to me that you'd take umbrage with an analyst analyzing.

                  listen to teddy when they have a great fight. there's a lot less analyzing. he has to do that crap, man. those fights can be bad, and the skills can be an insult to national television. casuals would be more likely to change the channel without atlas.


                  i usually don't care about the outcome of ESPN fights, as the fighters aren't doing anything in boxing anyway. i just watch to be entertained and to be around more boxing matches. "i just hope somebody gets nailed." jaded boxing fan. i don't give two craps about teddy atlas' scorecard. giving a good card is easiest when you're quite and watching punches. that's not what he's there to do.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by New England
                    for starters, it doesn't make sense to me that you'd take umbrage with an analyst analyzing.

                    listen to teddy when they have a great fight. there's a lot less analyzing. he has to do that crap, man. those fights can be bad, and the skills can be an insult to national television. casuals would be more likely to change the channel without atlas.


                    i usually don't care about the outcome of ESPN fights, as the fighters aren't doing anything in boxing anyway. i just watch to be entertained and to be around more boxing matches. "i just hope somebody gets nailed." jaded boxing fan. i don't give two craps about teddy atlas' scorecard. giving a good card is easiest when you're quite and watching punches. that's not what he's there to do.
                    C'mon, NE that's being a little too cynical. FNFs frequently showcase up-and-coming fighters before they make the jump to SHO/HBO; they also show fighters who are trying to turn around their careers and are 'back to basics' fighting on ESPN (again). I don't care too much for Atlas but the fights can be very entertaining.

                    I see your point about scorecards but Atlas frequently criticizes the scorecards of official judges. How can he criticize a judge for a bad scorecard when he himself regularly does so as well?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BostonGuy
                      C'mon, NE that's being a little too cynical. FNFs frequently showcase up-and-coming fighters before they make the jump to SHO/HBO; they also show fighters who are trying to turn around their careers and are 'back to basics' fighting on ESPN (again). I don't care too much for Atlas but the fights can be very entertaining.

                      I see your point about scorecards but Atlas frequently criticizes the scorecards of official judges. How can he criticize a judge for a bad scorecard when he himself regularly does so as well?

                      it is the truth. sometimes i watch FNF and think "i am wasting my 20's. i should not be home and watching this."

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