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  • -PBP-
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    #71
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    Has it ever occured to you that maybe Angulo was a lil bit better than he'd been in years?? It happens bro. Sometimes a fighter can make adjustments. Lol at "would get beat easily". Is that your idea of a fact??
    These are the arguments:

    "_____? Floyd would beat him easily"

    "______ struggled with _______. Imagine what Floyd would do to him"

    "Stop bringing up _________. Floyd would have schooled him easily"

    "_______ has no fan base, would be boring on All Access and will sell no PPV."


    I've been a Floyd fan since '96 when he was on that stacked Olympic squad but BS is BS. I'm tired of fights with flat footed power punchers that are decided on the cards by round 8. You need guy that can box smart, use his feet and make Floyd adjust.

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    • RIpitRon
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      #72
      Originally posted by tiger8
      Mayweather can't be compared to the greats of the past. He's another Cesar Chavez jr. who cherry picked his opponents and has 45 wins and one loss against a real opponent. The greats of the past had no catchweights. they also fought 15 rounds. Floyd has honed his skills against tomato cans, or washed up fighters. Roy Jones was faster and hit harder. Leonard would have beat him and so would Hearns, Benitez and Duran. If they were active today and in their prime mayweather would not fight them. He would find an excuse like he did for Pacman. At least he trains hard and comes in excellent condition. Mike McCallum would have knocked him out. I won't see another fight that has catchweights. That gives one fighter an unfair advantage over another. Mayweather never looked in Margaritos way or Paul Williams. Chicken Mayweather.
      Originally posted by PBP
      These are the arguments:

      "_____? Floyd would beat him easily"

      "______ struggled with _______. Imagine what Floyd would do to him"

      "Stop bringing up _________. Floyd would have schooled him easily"

      "_______ has no fan base, would be boring on All Access and will sell no PPV."


      I've been a Floyd fan since '96 when he was on that stacked Olympic squad but BS is BS. I'm tired of fights with flat footed power punchers that are decided on the cards by round 8. You need guy that can box smart, use his feet and make Floyd adjust.
      So if you have been a Floyd fan and a true Boxing genius.............do you really think it will matter. The only damn thing that is going to stop Floyd from winning is for him to get caught. You are not going to out think him, you are not going to ou box him and you are not going to quick him.

      Its clear as day.............the man is the single best all around boxer I have ever seen. Now I am only 47 yrs old and I have only been a fan for 35 yrs, but this kid as arrogant and Brash as he is, is incredible.

      I dont think there is a boxer from 140 to 160 that can beat him unless he gets caught with a heavy punch. So far that shot has only happened a few times and he weathered the storm. So a speedy type fighter with good boxing skills like Lara isnt the Answer.

      Now I do believe someone with Length and good speed with power would give him trouble.................do you see that fighter out there right now? I surely dont!

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        #73
        Originally posted by RIpitRon
        So if you have been a Floyd fan and a true Boxing genius.............do you really think it will matter. The only damn thing that is going to stop Floyd from winning is for him to get caught. You are not going to out think him, you are not going to ou box him and you are not going to quick him.

        Its clear as day.............the man is the single best all around boxer I have ever seen. Now I am only 47 yrs old and I have only been a fan for 35 yrs, but this kid as arrogant and Brash as he is, is incredible.

        I dont think there is a boxer from 140 to 160 that can beat him unless he gets caught with a heavy punch. So far that shot has only happened a few times and he weathered the storm. So a speedy type fighter with good boxing skills like Lara isnt the Answer.

        Now I do believe someone with Length and good speed with power would give him trouble.................do you see that fighter out there right now? I surely dont!
        Your attitude is "Who cares? He's the greatest of this era and defeats everybody. It doesn't matter who he fights. I accept whatever opponent GBP picks. "

        My attitude is "He's the greatest fighter of this era and will be favored in every matchup for the rest of his career. But I'm tired of seeing him against flat footed, power punchers with big fanbases. I want to see a skilled, athletic boxer in the ring with him to bring the best out of him. I pay a lot of money to get good seats to see him perform in Vegas and I want to see competitive boxing matches. Not one sided sparring sessions."

        So we both agree on the same thing. We just disagree on the types of fighters that he should face for the rest of his career.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #74
          Originally posted by RIpitRon
          So if you have been a Floyd fan and a true Boxing genius.............do you really think it will matter. The only damn thing that is going to stop Floyd from winning is for him to get caught. You are not going to out think him, you are not going to ou box him and you are not going to quick him.

          Its clear as day.............the man is the single best all around boxer I have ever seen. Now I am only 47 yrs old and I have only been a fan for 35 yrs, but this kid as arrogant and Brash as he is, is incredible.

          I dont think there is a boxer from 140 to 160 that can beat him unless he gets caught with a heavy punch. So far that shot has only happened a few times and he weathered the storm. So a speedy type fighter with good boxing skills like Lara isnt the Answer.

          Now I do believe someone with Length and good speed with power would give him trouble.................do you see that fighter out there right now? I surely dont!
          Originally posted by PBP
          Your attitude is "Who cares? He's the greatest of this era and defeats everybody. It doesn't matter who he fights. I accept whatever opponent GBP picks. "

          My attitude is "He's the greatest fighter of this era and will be favored in every matchup for the rest of his career. But I'm tired of seeing him against flat footed, power punchers with big fanbases. I want to see a skilled, athletic boxer in the ring with him to bring the best out of him. I pay a lot of money to get good seats to see him perform in Vegas and I want to see competitive boxing matches. Not one sided sparring sessions."
          Ouch, forced ****. You better hope he's not pregnant PBP.:bukkake:

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          • RIpitRon
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            #75
            And who is going to supply that? This is the problem he is so far ahead of the curve it doesnt matter who you put him in with, he is going to stock you down and pick you apart.

            Truth be told there are potentially 3 fighters who might give him a test, Pacman " I dougbt it " Sergio " I also Doubt it " GGG and out of those three he has the best shot of ending Floyds reign. Aside of that there isnt anyone. So you can ***** all you want, you can wish for anything that your heart desires..............I am saying it truly wont make a damn bit of difference!

            The man is too damned good!!!

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #76
              Lara isn't even the second best boxer at 154 Molina is~ so if Floyd is going to fight a guy like that Floyd should fight the better guy which is Molina.

              And if I want to watch Floyd challenged I think Andrade is better than both

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                #77
                Originally posted by RIpitRon
                And who is going to supply that? This is the problem he is so far ahead of the curve it doesnt matter who you put him in with, he is going to stock you down and pick you apart.

                Truth be told there are potentially 3 fighters who might give him a test, Pacman " I dougbt it " Sergio " I also Doubt it " GGG and out of those three he has the best shot of ending Floyds reign. Aside of that there isnt anyone. So you can ***** all you want, you can wish for anything that your heart desires..............I am saying it truly wont make a damn bit of difference!

                The man is too damned good!!!

                What does my heart desire? I want him to win. I enjoy watching him perform.

                This is about the type of opponent that I want to see him in the ring against. And I don't want another flat footed, limited fighter, who's only hope is landing a home run power shot against the greatest defensive fighter of all time. It's not going to happen. He will never be KTFO. And because that's their only chance at winning, the fight is out of reach by round 6 because they don't have the ability to box and make adjustments.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  Lara isn't even the second best boxer at 154 Molina is~ so if Floyd is going to fight a guy like that Floyd should fight the better guy which is Molina.

                  And if I want to watch Floyd challenged I think Andrade is better than both
                  154 just needs a unification tournament with the winner being an opponent. Lara, Trout, Andrade/Vanes and Molina.

                  Canelo will probably fight Angulo, Cotto and then move up.

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                  • SkillspayBills
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                    #79
                    Has Lara even won a world championship yet? Lara would definitely present MM some problems but the likelihood of this fight happening is slim to none.

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                    • RIpitRon
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PBP
                      What does my heart desire? I want him to win. I enjoy watching him perform.

                      This is about the type of opponent that I want to see him in the ring against. And I don't want another flat footed, limited fighter, who's only hope is landing a home run power shot against the greatest defensive fighter of all time. It's not going to happen. He will never be KTFO. And because that's their only chance at winning, the fight is out of reach by round 6 because they don't have the ability to box and make adjustments.
                      And who is that?

                      I dont see it out there, I think Floyd knew damn well and good in his mind that he had 1 out of 6 fights that he might be tested...............he already had that test. There isnt anyone out there that is going to really give him a hard time.

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