Trying to sell an opponent for Floyd Mayweather

[cupocity303]

Floyd is worth what the market bears and he will be coming off a big hit~ they are not losing tonight and they really didn't lose with Guerrero.

GBP has larger backing than you think and Showtime does pay a lot.

When there is a big hit movie you know who gets most of the credit the leading star, it works the same with boxing. Coming off a hit Floyd isn't taking a pay cut.

Sure he can, if the projections for PPV buys aren't as high as they were for this one. Schaefer anticipated that this would sell big (we shall see).

Will he anticipate the same for the next fight?

Read that article and get back to me.

[The Gambler1981]

Sure he can, if the projections for PPV buys aren't as high as they were for this one. Schaefer anticipated that this would sell big (we shall see).

Will he anticipate the same for the next fight?

Read that article and get back to me.

I already did yesterday.

You are overplaying what it means.

Floyd gets paid and will get paid, in lesser fights they won't spend as much thus lowering the amount they need to make back. You think they didn't make money today? You think they are not going to roll the dice with their number 1 ace again and again.

Do you think they just randomly give Floyd that money? If they give it to him he is worth it~ and Showtime pays the vast majority of Floyd's money in the end.

[Vasyl’s dad]

They did give Garcia a gift tonight, so Danny it will be. They'll promote the **** out of him being undefeated and use it as the primary selling point, two undefeated americans.

[cupocity303]

I already did yesterday.

You are overplaying what it means.

Floyd gets paid and will get paid, in lesser fights they won't spend as much thus lowering the amount they need to make back. You think they didn't make money today? You think they are not going to roll the dice with their number 1 ace again and again.

Do you think they just randomly give Floyd that money? If they give it to him he is worth it~ and Showtime pays the vast majority of Floyd's money in the end.

If you read the article, then you read the quote from Schaefer, that they might only make 10 million from this fight when it's all said and done. And they more than likely lost money on Guerrero for overpromoting and not convincing buyers that Guerrero is a legitimate threat. Hence why he had to fight Canelo to make up for it. But surely the next opponent will be a come-down from Canelo's stature, as there is nobody bigger on the horizon.


I get that Floyd will continue making money. It's not like he will just stop or that PPV's will plummet to zero. I'm just saying that there are no more worthy fighters left. And by Floyd's own admission, "(insert fighters name here) isn't a PPV draw, that's why I'm not fighting him". I don't think he will be even be able to dust off a Mexican-American (Ortiz, Guerrero) for the next one and Garcia has no connection to Latino fans since he is more of a Philly representative.

[Luilun]

After what he did to Canelo tonight, how will CBS/Sho/Goldenboy with their full promotional/advertising weight try to sell an opponent as a credible threat again? How will they get people interested and be willing to shell out money on the ever increasing PPV prices?

I mean, this isn't Wlad Klitschko (a favorite in every fight, with virtually nobody expected to beat him, winning subjectively boring fights). All he is bound by is his Belts and their contenders. All he has to do is stay active, even when nobody thinks that his next opponent(s) has a shot at beating him.

But Floyd? He is bound by PPV buys, not Title contenders. I can only imagine a substantial amount of PPV ordering fans walking away and will not be back for another go-around. I don't even see anybody on the horizon to get excited about at the moment. Maybe if Manny wins, some of that hype will come back (but with the cynicism that the fight just can't get made for one reason or another, forget it.). Mattysse? Forget it. Bradley? Forget it. Garcia? I don't think so. Khan? Possible, only if Floyd decides to fight in the UK and create some buzz over there (a change in scenery from Las Vegas, would liven things up a bit), but even that isn't really a sellable fight.

Perhaps if Broner turned on 'The Money Team' and went on a big social campaign, berating Floyd, we would have something. He is after all right there and it could be a Welterweight unification fight. It could sort of be like Tommy Gun breaking away from his teacher Rocky's shadow, and calling him out to a fight. But, I doubt it.

Maybe, CBS/Sho/Golden will just force Floyd to come off his high horse and reduce his inflated, guaranteed purse, so they can profit too. Because the next event won't get the same kind of hype/buzz as this one did. Canelo/Manny are and were it.

Unless we can find someone like Roberto Duran at 147 to 154 he's not going to lose so save your money and don't purchase his fights. I didn't purchase it cause once I seen Canelo huffing and puffing against Trout I said no way, I hoping Canelo would win but he doesn't have the style to beat him you need to have someone who's a throw back fighter like Duran who's on your azz the entire fight. Even a Mike Tyson type style the early version 85 to 89 but a welter weight and there's none around

[Pacdbest]

Nothing in Showtime rosters RT NOW can make money as opponent for Floyd. Floyd got back to back boring fights. He cant sell the word KO anymore as he promised every fight! Good luck Pussssy boy!

U Lucky my cousin ordered ur fight! Then I got lucky winning the Pot! I know I'll win when I picked rd 12!

[cupocity303]

Unless we can find someone like Roberto Duran at 147 to 154 he's not going to lose so save your money and don't purchase his fights. I didn't purchase it cause once I seen Canelo huffing and puffing against Trout I said no way, I hoping Canelo would win but he doesn't have the style to beat him you need to have someone who's a throw back fighter like Duran who's on your azz the entire fight. Even a Mike Tyson type style the early version 85 to 89 but a welter weight and there's none around

Yeah. I don't think I will buy another Floyd fight again, unless he manages to get Manny before they're both 40 years old.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching him fight. But I enjoy a lot of movies on regular television that I wouldn't have paid to see in Theaters. I used to be a big Floyd fan circa 2005-2007 but have gotten more conservative over the years and dropped my fanboyism.

So, not a hater. And I'd like to think that I have a pulse on the collective sentiment, and if I aint willing to pay, thousands upon thousands feel the same way, hence why the next fight will be hard to sell.

[The Gambler1981]

If you read the article, then you read the quote from Schaefer, that they might only make 10 million from this fight when it's all said and done. And they more than likely lost money on Guerrero for overpromoting and not convincing buyers that Guerrero is a legitimate threat. Hence why he had to fight Canelo to make up for it. But surely the next opponent will be a come-down from Canelo's stature, as there is nobody bigger on the horizon.


I get that Floyd will continue making money. It's not like he will just stop or that PPV's will plummet to zero. I'm just saying that there are no more worthy fighters left. And by Floyd's own admission, "(insert fighters name here) isn't a PPV draw, that's why I'm not fighting him". I don't think he will be even be able to dust off a Mexican-American (Ortiz, Guerrero) for the next one and Garcia has no connection to Latino fans since he is more of a Philly representative.

I don't think they did lose much if at all on the Guerrero fight and they aren't going to lose 10 million dollars. Even for GBP Floyd is a marketing tool because every fighter now wants to be Floyd and GBP is associated with that so that is future business and money to be made.

Now GBP doesn't have as deep of pockets as Showtime/CBS so they can't take huge sustained loses but they also don't have to be associated with Floyd if it is killing them, last I checked there was no contract between them just a working relationship. SO Floyd has to be worth it to them to have around.

Boxing is a star business, and Floyd is the star until he is proven to be no longer bankable. His next fight will most likely be smaller than this one but people will still buy the way they did when Tyson was smashing dudes in 1 round and people were asking is it worth it to see Tyson barely break a sweat. People dig the best always will no matter the form.

[DatMofoThere85]

Canelo turned out to be all hype in terms of his competitiveness with Floyd. If GBP really wanted to give Canelo a chance of winning, they would have waited about 3 more fights to give Canelo some more nuances and demanded no catchweight. However GBP are promoters looking to make a buck, so instead of risking a Canelo loss to someone else, they turned the hype machine up full blast and guess what? It worked. Massive PPV sales.

However the casual fan was turned off. At least they weren't turned on. People want excitement not science. Floyd's saftey-first approach is hard to sell and even more so now that casual fans feel they've been "tricked".

We'll never know how much Showtime lost on the Guerrero fight, but they can expect Floyd's next fight to do similar numbers.

I'm not a Mayweather hater I'm a realist . There's a reason Floyd fights on Mexican holidays with Mexicans on his undercards -- to boost PPV sales amongst a certain group of people.

[cupocity303]

Boxing is a star business, and Floyd is the star until he is proven to be no longer bankable. His next fight will most likely be smaller than this one but people will still buy the way they did when Tyson was smashing dudes in 1 round and people were asking is it worth it to see Tyson barely break a sweat. People dig the best always will no matter the form.

That's not a good comparison. The intrigue with Tyson, whether he fought Lewis or some fat plumber was the unpredictability and Knockout history.

Floyd has none of that. What are they gonna order thinking, "Gee, I wonder if Floyd can pull off another 12 round waltz of pot shotting, maybe if we're lucky we get treated to another Victor Ortiz 4rounder". Even the great Ali wouldn't have been intriguing enough for expensive PPV after PPV orders in a 90's and 2000's environment. He is lucky he didn't have to go through that with broadcast television and all.