When was the last time 2 undefeated Ring Champions fought to unify a division?

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  • Reloaded
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Tase
    when was the last time a 2x champion at a division asked a fellow division titlist to fight at a catchweight in the same division they hold a belt in?

    THAT'S INSANE!!!!!
    Manny fought at 147 before and after Cotto , but for the real WT he demanded a 145 CW , is that the same kinda insane ?

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    • The Ninth Layer
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      #42
      Originally posted by damned1974
      Marquez and Bradley have only fought at WW maybe 2 times...Robert has at least been there 3 times. Guerrero's fights amount to more...sure he lost to Floyd, but technically, Bradley should have the loss to Pac. If those are out of the equation, then at least Robert beat Berto and Aydin...Bradley beat Abregu and now a Provodnikov who a lot of people thought Bradley lost and was even a division out of...you can make a good arguement for Robert being ranked higher than Bradley.

      Hell,we will see who is ranked where once Bradley fights Marquez...we all know the outcome of Mayweather/Marquez-no need to see a rematch while JMM is getting older and slower.
      When Guerrero fought Mayweather (his third fight at WW after Aydin and Berto), Bradley and Marquez had already fought three times at welterweight. Marquez had fought Mayweather, Manny, and Manny again (and some tune-ups in the vicinity of welterweight in the meantime) and Bradley had fought Abregu, Manny and Provodnikov.

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      • The Ninth Layer
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        #43
        Originally posted by SoggyLungs
        not marquez or pac....guerrero fought berto who was irrelevant at that point and aydin who hadn't really fought anyone but was ranked in the top ten at ww...but i'd rank him above bradley...bradley lost against pac..and ring recognizes this among many other media and fans..and then he defended against a #10 jr ww who almost knocked him out...
        Okay, so even you agree that Guerrero was at best the #4 welterweight when he fought Mayweather?

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        • SD180sx
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          #44
          Its a unification match, their not gonna unify the division.

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          • The Tase
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            #45
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Manny fought at 147 before and after Cotto , but for the real WT he demanded a 145 CW , is that the same kinda insane ?
            Manny was a 2x champion at 147 before he faced cotto like floyd is a 2x 154lb champion before he faced canelo????

            kinda not the same.

            try again.

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            • Reloaded
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Tase
              Manny was a 2x champion at 147 before he faced cotto like floyd is a 2x 154lb champion before he faced canelo????

              kinda not the same.

              try again.
              Kinda exactly the same any fool can see that without needing fanboy spin splitting irrelevant hairs , lol ,

              Why did Manny fight at 147 then force Cotto to 145 and then straight back to 147 , your emphasizing titles when Manny fights non title bouts at the division weight and forced the belt holder to a 145 CW , whats your take on that ? was he scared of Cotto ?

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              • keepemup
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                #47
                I hope Top Rank and Mayweather promotions somehow work it out to have Bradley and Mayweather fight. No one will lose due to fatigue in that fight.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #48
                  Just saw ol Rick Reeno on the Floyd-Canelo ppv countdown

                  Boxingscene on the map..what up REENO!!!LOL

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                  • Jack Napier
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                    #49
                    Ring belt means fuck all nowadays
                    no need to make the fight into something it's not Larryx
                    past it but still good ATG whipping a decent, prime, younger fighter
                    Floyd becomes #1 at JMW win this win, but not lineal champ
                    he has more work to do to unify the division
                    and that's very likely not happening

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                      #50
                      Considering Mayweather was the last lineal champion...the man who beat the man and retired undefeated and came back. He is the only fighter with any real claim to being the welterweight champion. When he came back he beat WBC welterweight titleholder and top 5 rated Ortiz, dominated Marquez who is now top 5, I believe Mosley was stripped of the WBA belt before they fought but he was ranked as the highest welterweight, Guerrero was highly ranked at the weight....there really is no dispute who the welterweight champion is

                      As far as Canelo...he only has a modest claim to being the real junior middleweight champion. Beating Mayweather is a step in the right direction. The Trout win isnt enough to earn that distinction when guys like Carlos Molina, Erislandy Lara, and Ishe Smith have defeated/faced better opposition and hold high rankings and smith holds the other major title

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