When was the last time 2 undefeated Ring Champions fought to unify a division?

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  • techliam
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    #21
    Originally posted by Money Team.
    Ring rankings are the official rankings man thats what our sport goes by,if we had to go by everyone in the worlds opinion we would have millions of different rankings..so hey im a stating facts
    RING rankings are not the official rankings at all, in fact, there are no official rankings. That's why we have sanctioning bodies. It's a bold claim to make, can you offer some evidence of the sport using the RING rankings officially?

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    • Jam Jars
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Ninth Layer
      The only thing "official" about The Ring's rankings is that they are officially the rankings of Ring Magazine. If you want to talk official rankings then we're talking sanctioning bodies.

      People used to put a lot of stock into the Ring, but really how much stock are you going to put in a magazine that rated Adrien Broner above Manny Pacquiao?
      A lot because it's not them that pick the P4P it's boxing experts and writers around the world.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Own3d
        A lot because it's not them that pick the P4P it's boxing experts and writers around the world.
        Who was the boxing expert that ranked Adrien Broner above Manny Pacquiao?

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Ninth Layer
          Who was the boxing expert that ranked Adrien Broner above Manny Pacquiao?
          Go look on the ring site, there's a list of those that vote for the P4P list.

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          • techliam
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            #25
            Originally posted by SoggyLungs
            tim bradley is with top rank....and he got a gift against pac and arguably lost against provodnikov....

            if an unmotivated pac could easily outpoint bradley then mayweather would make him look like nothing...
            Thing is though, it doesn't matter what promoter a fighter has. He's either ranked higher, or he's not. You don't award belts just because fights are clouded with politics. You don't award the belt at all till the fight gets made...

            Using your logic, Pac would be rated way higher than Bradley at the time.

            EDIT: I see Ninth Layer is practically arguing everything I am.

            Bit of my own contribution - the RING effectively allows for rank 4 and rank 5 to fight for a RING belt. Their policy also allows them to ignore any fighter they want from their ratings, like Peterson (even though I hate this guy for his PED use) and Huck. If that sounds legitimate to you, then gl.

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              #26
              good question but i dont think a fighter ever moved up to unify a division.

              basilio vs robinson 1? Was basilio still welter champ?

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                #27
                One of the most paper "championships" ever.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Own3d
                  A lot because it's not them that pick the P4P it's boxing experts and writers around the world.
                  Oh, like TBRB then? Apart from that the RING doesn't have a policy against sanctioning body/promoter influence

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Own3d
                    Go look on the ring site, there's a list of those that vote for the P4P list.
                    The Ring P4P list is determined by chuck giampa

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      One of the most paper "championships" ever.
                      but there is a gold belt on the line!

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