Just rewatched Floyd vs Guerrero, Floyd is declining and will lose before he retires

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  • KeepItObjective
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    #41
    Originally posted by Obama2.0
    I seen a fighter in Floyd who is showing aging for sure. What happen in the ghost fight. Has more to do for what style Floyd trained for. He trained for the ghost to make it nasty tough on the inside fighting in the pocket trying to out man him. So the game plan was to go into the fight and be physical clinch wrestle tie up. Hopefully be in better shape to out last the ghost. Watch the first 4 rounds. Once Floyd realized the ghost couldn't hit him or put man. He stayed in the pocket. Fighting with head faints and angles. It was no need to run or waste alot of energy Bc the ghost couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
    I'm talking about his decline not why he performed this way etc

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    • DoubleMM
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      #42
      Originally posted by Obama2.0
      I seen a fighter in Floyd who is showing aging for sure. What happen in the ghost fight. Has more to do for what style Floyd trained for. He trained for the ghost to make it nasty tough on the inside fighting in the pocket trying to out man him. So the game plan was to go into the fight and be physical clinch wrestle tie up. Hopefully be in better shape to out last the ghost. Watch the first 4 rounds. Once Floyd realized the ghost couldn't hit him or put man. He stayed in the pocket. Fighting with head faints and angles. It was no need to run or waste alot of energy Bc the ghost couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
      you don't even know what you watched bro. contrary to what people on here type, Guerrero was super game and is a very good fighter. floyd didn't fight on the inside at all in that fight...because he couldn't. guerrero was too tall, too strong, lefty, and is SUPER AGRESSIVE. floyd had to tie him up. it has nothing to do with floyd declining. in fact, right now @ his age while he is not in his physical prime he's much more dangerous because of the amount of experience he holds. If Floyd tried to fight Guerero on the inside or if he tried to fight him like Cotto he would've lost that night.

      canelo is not aggresive, he's not tall, he's orthodox, doesn't cut the ring off and gasses in fights. they're both mexican but they are very diffrent fighters.

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        #43
        Originally posted by DoubleMM
        you don't even know what you watched bro. contrary to what people on here type, Guerrero was super game and is a very good fighter. floyd didn't fight on the inside at all in that fight...because he couldn't. guerrero was too tall, too strong, lefty, and is SUPER AGRESSIVE. floyd had to tie him up. it has nothing to do with floyd declining. in fact, right now @ his age while he is not in his physical prime he's much more dangerous because of the amount of experience he holds. If Floyd tried to fight Guerero on the inside or if he tried to fight him like Cotto he would've lost that night.

        canelo is not aggresive, he's not tall, he's orthodox, doesn't cut the ring off and gasses in fights. they're both mexican but they are very diffrent fighters.
        Canelo is 5x the fighter Guerrero is p4p.

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        • A-Wolf
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          #44
          Oh people are blind as **** no question. Floyd is in decline BUT he's compensating with greater determination and focus. He moved almost gingerly at different points in his last match. A bit like old man Hopkins. Certainly, the bolts and screws on his once trap tight fast twitch muscles are getting looser. Floyd's plan is simple; "be first." He's going to jump all over Canelo. Watch.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DoubleMM
            you don't even know what you watched bro. contrary to what people on here type, Guerrero was super game and is a very good fighter. floyd didn't fight on the inside at all in that fight...because he couldn't. guerrero was too tall, too strong, lefty, and is SUPER AGRESSIVE. floyd had to tie him up. it has nothing to do with floyd declining. in fact, right now @ his age while he is not in his physical prime he's much more dangerous because of the amount of experience he holds. If Floyd tried to fight Guerero on the inside or if he tried to fight him like Cotto he would've lost that night.

            canelo is not aggresive, he's not tall, he's orthodox, doesn't cut the ring off and gasses in fights. they're both mexican but they are very diffrent fighters.
            I'll agree to disagree Floyd was never not in reach of Robert. He used very little distance or movement. After the 6 round he was practically smothering and circling Robert until he hurt his hand. You had some valid points. I'll ask you something that I haven't heard discussed. If Canelo sell out to attacking the body. Do you see Floyd selling out and fully committing to a check left hook or a big upper cut early in the fight. Does he wait until he for sure thinks he can land later in the fight?

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              #46
              Originally posted by KeepItObjective
              Also can you elaborate on the decline you see in Floyd just out of interest.
              Just an overall dip in speed , as I said earlier he is starting to be twitchy , and more tentative , his mind is still sharp but the body is a split behind , maybe that was just because of extended time out and he is as sharp as a tack on the weekend , because if your timing is off a little it can have the same look , anything that hampers flow and rhythm can make speed fighters look twitchy , I think Floyd will be tough in the trenches when he gets forced into them , to me Floyd looks like he is approaching the second coming of Ali , the first Ali didn't have to fight because he was so on his game , that was the float like a butterfly Ali , the next one was a little slower , more aged , more mileage , and then he had to fight , turned out to have a magnificent chin and the heart of a lion , hope Floyd proves to be the same .

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                #47
                Originally posted by Obama2.0
                I'll agree to disagree Floyd was never not in reach of Robert. He used very little distance or movement. After the 6 round he was practically smothering and circling Robert until he hurt his hand. You had some valid points. I'll ask you something that I haven't heard discussed. If Canelo sell out to attacking the body. Do you see Floyd selling out and fully committing to a check left hook or a big upper cut early in the fight. Does he wait until he for sure thinks he can land later in the fight?
                Canelo won't be able to sell out to the body because he doesn't have the footspeed to catch floyd. how is he going to sell out? he will be burning a ton of energy to even catch floyd. that's not how canelo fights. when have you seen canelo use his size and cut the ring off? I've never seen it. and your telling me now he will try to cut the ring off and sell out? that's not who he is and he will be GASSING out very badly if he "sells out".

                can you name me a time vs trout (who didn't move), in which canelo landed a combination? i think it was 0 times. all single shots.

                the 1 shot floyd needs to be very careful about is canelo right hand. if you watch the trout fight he was close to being KO'd several times by that punch and he was knocked down once. he had no reflexes at all to that punch. canelo is very sneaky with it, and throws it with a lot of explosion or will throw it on a diffrent rhytem. he will pretend to throw it to the body and will loop it over the top.

                I personally think we'll see Floyd pick the pace up after canelo and gasses like he always does and floyd walking Canleo down after round 8. canelo gasses up mid rounds he won't last the 12. just my opinion.
                Last edited by DoubleMM; 09-10-2013, 05:28 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by KeepItObjective
                  Canelo is 5x the fighter Guerrero is p4p.
                  lol you ****** thought Guerrero actually had a chance hahahahaha

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                    #49
                    Mayweather will continue to pick his opponents too carefully to lose.

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                    • RapidFire180
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                      #50
                      I think its obvious hes declining he'll be 37 soon, so hes not gonna move around like hes 27. But Floyd is probably the smartest fighter in the world. He knows what he cant do now. But he will win this fight i think 8-4. Canelo better not gas late

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