List fighters with most active p4p victories

[IronDanHamza]

I still like Ring's divisional rankings, but their PFP list is definitely now a marketing tool.

When hasn't it been?

The term "P4P" in general was created as a marketing tool.

[DuttyAlacrity]

The Ring's rankings are good for the most part IMO. Some shaky choices on the P4P rankings but to be honest that's always been the case.

I think if people use The Ring as their go-to rankings which pretty much everyone does and always has then you can't pick and choose when you're going to go by them.

Great point. Green k

[DuttyAlacrity]

you mean professional...only one guy does the ring ratings..

C'mon son. Save the conspiracy theories.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He was. Or at the very least Top 10 and pushing Top 5 when Shane destroyed him.

Shane Mosley isn't exactly Buster Douglas or Frankie Randall is he.

No shane isnt,, but at the time he was a guy that barely got past mayorga, had gotten beat by cotto, margs had lost to paul williams and santos...

Both were still good fighters but neither should have been p4p off one big win.

Margs was basically a walking punching bag, and mosley had no legs since about 2005.......His best wins since that is a totally shot vargas, shot mayorga, and the punching bag margs,,,

Cotto was a great win for margs but not enough to catapult him into a p4p discussion

I base p4p on skill level, and margs never had the skills to be a p4p guy, he was very one dimensional, and shane was p4p in his prime but not since the winky fights IMO

they were top 20, but i couldnt rank them higher than say

floyd
manny
ward
jmm
hopkins
donaire
williams
serg
wlad
gamboa
just off the top of my head

[Weebler I]

His fight with Mayorga was at 154 so not much stock can be put into that considering he's always looked poor at 154 his entire career and the Cotto fight was a close fight and good losing performance against at the time one of the best fighters in the world.

And that doesn't really matter because the Margarito fight was P4P quality stuff. Margarito again considering to be one of the best fighters in the world at the time and the most feared fighter in the world and he beat the absolute hell out of him.

Even if not much stock is placed in it, it was still a poor performance and he looked ready for retirement and the Cotto fight is still a loss. I can't see the justification for having him down as the third best fighter in all of boxing at that point in time.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He was. Or at the very least Top 10 and pushing Top 5 when Shane destroyed him.

Shane Mosley isn't exactly Buster Douglas or Frankie Randall is he.

did you put duran in p4p top 10 when he beat barkley

or hopkins when he beat cloud

or when holmes was beating top heavys in the 90s


great fighters like shane can pull out a big win, but arent dominant or consistent enough to be p4p

[IronDanHamza]

did you put duran in p4p top 10 when he beat barkley

or hopkins when he beat cloud

or when holmes was beating top heavys in the 90s


great fighters like shane can pull out a big win, but arent dominant or consistent enough to be p4p

The difference is Barkley, Cloud and Ray Mercer weren't considered Top 10 P4P by anyone unlike Margarito.

Margarito was considered to be the best WW of his era and one of the most feared men on the planet. None of those others fighters were.

[DuttyAlacrity]

I still like Ring's divisional rankings, but their PFP list is definitely now a marketing tool.

The p4p rankings will always be controversial because of all the subjectivity, factors and assumptions. But to my point, the panel consists of who we consider experts and professionals.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The difference is Barkley, Cloud and Ray Mercer weren't considered Top 10 P4P by anyone unlike Margarito.

Margarito was considered to be the best WW of his era and one of the most feared men on the planet. None of those others fighters were.

How can he be considered the best when williams beat him and his best wins were vs cintron,,, cotto was a great win but not high enough to catapult a guy to p4p rankings

was mayorga p4p after he beat forrest twice, and forrest was the true #1 welter,,,

list your p4p for 2009 with margs, and shane and 8 other guys,, im interested to see your rankings

[Russian Crushin]

No shane isnt,, but at the time he was a guy that barely got past mayorga, had gotten beat by cotto, margs had lost to paul williams and santos...

Both were still good fighters but neither should have been p4p off one big win.

Margs was basically a walking punching bag, and mosley had no legs since about 2005.......His best wins since that is a totally shot vargas, shot mayorga, and the punching bag margs,,,

Cotto was a great win for margs but not enough to catapult him into a p4p discussion

I base p4p on skill level, and margs never had the skills to be a p4p guy, he was very one dimensional, and shane was p4p in his prime but not since the winky fights IMO

they were top 20, but i couldnt rank them higher than say

floyd
manny
ward
jmm
hopkins
donaire
williams
serg
wlad
gamboa
just off the top of my head

Best proof of skill is winning. Otherwise Gary Russell Jr would be top 5