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  • #31
    I'm right there with you OP, I love Bradley but unless Marquez is completely shot he should not lose to a fighter like Tim. Then again most of these people predicted that JMM would get destroyed by Manny in his last fight. The only way Bradley can win is by outworking Marquez, and it's not a good idea to throw those loopy punches non stop he throws against a precise counterpuncher, there's not a chance he can outbox him and JMM also has the advantage in the power department. Anyways, Marquez is actually the betting favorite so people picking Tim are actually the minority.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
      marquez should be the obvious choice....bradley lost against pac and got his head knocked around by a #10 ranked junior welter....bradley is done and if marquez juices up the same amount from his 4th fight with pac then he KOs bradley easy...


      I still see you can't past a day without crying about Marquez winning? Must be difficult huh?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BennyST View Post
        Whatever. Hes not going to get old overnight, because hes already ****ing ancient! I guarantee that Marquez will look shot to ****, Mainly because he is basically shot to ****. This fight will show it up. I'll bet you everything you have. You give me all if Bradley wins, and I'll give you double if Marquez wins.

        I want Marquez to win more than any other fight I can think of, but I'm not deluded to the reality of the situation. His timing and counter punches will be negated by Bradley's youth, footwork, game plan, speed, defense and combinations. He doesn't have the power, despite the ******s suddenly thinking he developed one shot power overnight to KO Bradley, especially because Bradley isn't going to walk into shots trying to madly stop Marquez. Marquez has excellent power, always has, from the beginning of his career when he was known as a pure power puncher, but not enough at 40 with his speed and reflexes (lack thereof) to stop Bradley.

        Although he still has okay timing, it was greatly diminished and he was struggling to get off with most shots vs Pac, who was countering Marquez as much, usually more than he was being countered. His reflexes and speed are all but gone.

        You'll see. You've fallen for the Pac KO and the Bradley war. Marquez isn't a huge, prime, power punching welterweight like Provodnikov, Bradley won't be trying to go in for a war and he will be in much, much better condition.

        Anyway, are you really that confident or are you bull****ting yourself? Put it all up.
        I have fallen into the Bradley war. IMO his last two fights have taken something out of him and its not just physical. Provodnikov isn't a huge punching ww either. That was his first fight at 147 and he was a decent puncher at 140 but not great. People think Provo is a beast since the fight with Bradley. Who has Provodnikov ever beat let alone stop. He got a gift decision in Russia against Corley. The same Corley that got obliterated by Matthysse earlier in the year. He looked like the fnf that he is in that fight and against Herrera. He hurt Bradley in the opening round and he never fully recovered, thats the only reason the fight was close. IMO is Provo had better conditioning he would've won that fight, but he was tired in the third round and allowed Bradley to get back into the fight.

        Marquez does everything better than Provo. I'd give Provo the edge in power because he's naturally a bigger guy but that about it. I really don't think JMM looked as diminished as you say he is. I'll bet you something I don't about all of my points, but I'll make a wager. Im confident in JMM but not 100%, because Marquez is old.

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        • #34
          If Marquez is on that good **** he's retiring Bradley.

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          • #35
            It all depends on which Marquez shows up, he looked considerably slower in the 4th fight against Pacquiao in comparison to the 3rd fight where he was much sharper. Then again, he did say this time he was gonna look for the knock out from the getgo. Marquez also said his main forcus for this camp is speed, so we'll have to see. At first I was going with Bradley but right now I'm going with Marquez again. Watching the Mayweather fight I noticed Floyd made Marquez miss at times by a hair, and while Bradley has good reflexes he doesn't have those kind of reflexes. Rooting for Bradley but picking Marquez in this one.

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            • #36
              I'd favor Bradley 55-45, but whatever happens wont surprise me.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                It all depends on which Marquez shows up, he looked considerably slower in the 4th fight against Pacquiao in comparison to the 3rd fight where he was much sharper. Then again, he did say this time he was gonna look for the knock out from the getgo. Marquez also said his main forcus for this camp is speed, so we'll have to see. At first I was going with Bradley but right now I'm going with Marquez again. Watching the Mayweather fight I noticed Floyd made Marquez miss at times by a hair, and while Bradley has good reflexes he doesn't have those kind of reflexes. Rooting for Bradley but picking Marquez in this one.
                I think it was the strategy in which Marquez fought Pacquiao in that fourth fight, not to mention that Manny was ultra motivated as well and he looked sensational (like the old Pacquiao) until getting KO'd.

                People are linking the Marquez-Mayweather fight to this one but in reality it has very little relation. Mayweather and Bradley are completely different fighters with different styles.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by _original_ View Post
                  I think it was the strategy in which Marquez fought Pacquiao in that fourth fight, not to mention that Manny was ultra motivated as well and he looked sensational (like the old Pacquiao) until getting KO'd.

                  People are linking the Marquez-Mayweather fight to this one but in reality it has very little relation. Mayweather and Bradley are completely different fighters with different styles.
                  They are, I agree. What I saying is, I saw many instances where Mayweather made Marquez miss by a bit, literally a hair at times and Floyd has exceptional reflexes. That's why, if Marquez made speed his main focus as he put it, I have to go with him in this one.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by StarScr33m View Post
                    The way people are picking Bradley over Marquez is seriously confusing me. I haven't seen much of Bradley, I saw that he got easily beat by Pacman but was given a gift decision, saw some highlights from his fight where he brawled recently.

                    I'm just not seeing why people are picking him over a guy like Marquez? Am I missing something here?

                    This is a completely serious thread and I may be ignorant to how amazing Bradley is but I am completely unaware of where he has shown how amazing he is whilst I know what Marquez can do.
                    Good question and I'm picking Bradley too.

                    Yes Marquez has had good results against Pac in the last couple fights (had him beating Pac in the 3rd fight). The 4th fight ws just freaky but I won't go into that, he won't KO Bradley so it's almost irrelevant.

                    The reason I'm picking Bradley is that for all his guts and glory against Prov, he is actually a well schooled boxer. He knows how to close or increase distance, he has a good jab, he can throw combinations and he can work on the inside or the outside. Marquez has, in the past, suffered against boxers, heck just look at how he did against an almost shot Barrera.

                    Bradley is a step above a lot of the fighters Marquez has fought, he isn't popular and doesn't get huge accolades but don't take him lightly. Yes JMM is a great counter puncher but he is starting to fade, he doesn't react as quickly as he used to and Bradley will take advantage of that.

                    I wouldn't be surprised if JMM won but I'm betting on Bradley...if there's a KO then again there will be big questions surrounding Marquez lol

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                    • #40
                      Bradley is too wide with his punches. If Jmm was able to time pac, he will have a field day timing Tim coming in with his wide punches.

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