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Prime Mayweather vs. Prime Cotto: who wins?
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostA lot of people had Burns-Beltran by 2 points. Herp de derp flip some points and Burns wins? That makes no sense because Beltran clearly deserved the decision as did Cotto on that night. Close but clear victory.
if you're comparing that to cotto vs mosley..............
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Originally posted by El Angel View PostHow long was Meldrick Taylor's prime? Surely he wasn't prime when he turned pro, he needed to develop, and then JCC beat it out of him. It DOES happen.
And honestly, I don't care how you scored it either. I know what I saw and how I scored it, that's what matters to me. See how hard it is to debate that? You feel how you feel, I feel how I feel, no point in debating this issue anymore.
it doesn't make sense dude..............
& the sad thing is i never really considered taylor to be this potentially great fighter. i just thought he had some good tools (speed and combinations)
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Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View PostBoxing didnt become a sport because people liked to watch fighters count their money. You can dangle the term prizefighting as much as floyd dangles his bentleys and pretend that's the only thing that matters.
That, my friend, is non factual standards that only apply to floyd based on whatever you conclude is valid.
While EVERY fighter could have fought other opponents...the truly great ones are the ones that ACTUALLY DID IT...so dont try to put Floyd in with that group...its what separates him from them.
Floyd's money doesn't make him great, its beating 22 world champions, many before titles became so watered down.
If you don't think floyd is truly great well that is your opinion. If you want to go the route of labeling only the fights he didn't have as the "best" or "toughest" be my guest.
While he didn't do it like Leonard or ALi or SRR, floyd has reached the pinnacle and he i the best fighter of his generation as those men were. He will be a 1st ballot HOF'er. My guess is he will end up being ranked somewherein the top 15-25 or 30 fighters ever, depending on what he does the rest of his career.
If you see it otherwise you are entitled to.
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Originally posted by pigsfly View Postbeltran and burns? is this serious? beltran battered burns, knocked him down, hurt him repeatedly through out the fight. broke his jaw............had him grabbing and gasping for air for most of the fight. i had beltran by 3 rounds.........
if you're comparing that to cotto vs mosley..............
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Originally posted by El Angel View PostNever been accused of being Mayweather hater. It's sad that just because you think the guy might lose a fight, you're labeled Nationalistic or a Hater of him. No objectivity at all.
If I break it down, you'll just put "LMAO, Floyd dominates doe". Nobody on here should ever complain about Larryx again, he's an objective fan. Some of these Floyd fans are repugnant.
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Originally posted by pigsfly View Postwhen was meldrick taylor prime? I'll give you the exact date............when he fought Primo Ramos. thats 11 fights before chevez.......none of those 11 fights was even close.........& taylor only had like 22 fights under his belt before fighting chavez. cotto had like 32 before fighting margarito........
it doesn't make sense dude..............
& the sad thing is i never really considered taylor to be this potentially great fighter. i just thought he had some good tools (speed and combinations)
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostIn terms of points scored, a lot of people had it 115-113. I wasn't comparing the nature of the fights. Bottom line, Cotto won - saying you can flip some points here and there doesn't mean anything because it was clear who deserved the decision.
burns and beltran isn't that at all............
so what are you really arguing here?
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Originally posted by RubenSonny View PostFloyd retired awhile after the Hatton fight, both sides did not attempt to make the fight.
Originally posted by RubenSonny View PostNot true, he fought Gomez and agreed to fight Tony before Floyd retired. That's what he's talking about, would you care to explain that?
Originally posted by RubenSonny View PostNeither did Cotto.
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