Why can't (some) posters here distinguish a past prime fighter and a "shot" fighter?

[FrankieClutch]

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[WitherGlove]

example of shot Jermain Taylor in his last fight
Past prime Manny, Floyd, Hopkins, Marquez, Cotto, despite still being good fighters anyone following these guys careers know they are not at their best, which says alot about all the guys just listed seeing as how somway they are still finding ways to beat guys much younger than themselves and some in their primes

[MRBOOMER]

Shot fighters I can think of. Toney Holyfield jones morales rafa Marquez

Almost shot fighters. Juanma katsidis Berto -3 ass whippings it's coming.

Past prime fighters. Vitali Judah cotto Marquez Martinez

Now how far past their prime they are is up for debate.

[FrankieClutch]

Shot fighters I can think of. Toney Holyfield jones morales rafa Marquez

Almost shot fighters. Juanma katsidis Berto -3 ass whippings it's coming.

Past prime fighters. Vitali Judah cotto Marquez Martinez

Now how far past their prime they are is up for debate.

I think it's fair to say that Juanma is shot lol

[Derranged]

Because "some" posters don't know **** about boxing.

But DLH wasn't shot against Pac, he was weight drained and DLH has nobody to blame but himself for that.

[boxingfeind]

Agreed, people need to make a distinction between prime, shot and what "peak" actually means.

When a fighter is at his peak, or any athlete for that matter, they are t their absolute best during a period of their prime, a fighters peak is a portion of their prime. then you have periods before and after a fighters prime, for example, hopkins was pre-prime in the RJJ fight and at his absolute peak during the Tito fight.

Cotto was primed and peaked against Mosley and Marg, slightly past prime by the time he faced Manny but very well past his prime by the time he fought Floyd but not shot. I still don't think Cotto is shot right now.

Mosley though, is a shot fight and has been since after Marg, in the Marg fight he was almost shot but pulled out one last great performance.

I think the best example of a post prime fighter who isn't quite shot yet is Vitali Klitschko.

Cotto looked a lot faster and a lot sharper in the Mayweather fight then in the Pacquiao fight.I`m sure most people whose not bias would agree that Cotto looked slow in the Pacquiao fight.Also MAyweathe is past his prime also.Just because he continues to look spectacular that don`t mean he`s still in his prime.

[Larry the boss]

He was definitely dehydrated, but I say he was shot because he looked horrid against Steve Forbes

fight was at 150 against Forbes so the drop in weight affected him there also

[boxingfeind]

Yep, excellent choice. Another might be:

Froch/Ward - prime, Kessler - past it, Green - shot.

Wlad - somehow still prime (surely nearing the end though), Vitali - past it, Shannon The asthma cannon Briggs - shot.

Floyd-not prime but not past it, Pac - past it, Marquez - well and truly past it, Morales - shot.

"Floyd not prime but not past it"?What the hell is that suppose to mean?Either you are prime or past your prime,There`s nothing in between.Floyd is past his prime but he`s far from shot.

[JoeKidd]

Well, you can be shot in your prime.

[FrankieClutch]

fight was at 150 against Forbes so the drop in weight affected him there also

ahhhh, yes. I always forge that fight was at 150!

Well, you can be shot in your prime.

Please don't tell me you're serious....